John_Havok

And there's Rowley at the stairs shaking hands with the guys as they come off the field. Methinks the Jays just found their next Reed Johnson-esque fan favorite

No kidding, should be 2-2 hut Ohlman just stabbed at every pitch and made them look terrible.

Shows where our team is when the last 3 posts all say the same thing lol

Holy luck. We'll take it!

Yeah, gotta get at least 1.

Morales in as a pinch hitter.... do eeeeet!

Cmon Pearce, you're the last hope until the 7th

s***, nice pitch

Feels like Smoak needs to get a run in here

Damn you for this. Now he's cursed

Uh oh, Polanco coming up lame.

That changeup slipped.

I saw the 3rd and 4th innings. Nothing to get excited about but he doesn't look out of place. Decent fade/sink on that 2 seam fastball, average breaking ball, average change. Decent control/command. Looks like a guy who will give up his share of hits but but won't walk the world and can get the occasional whiff. Actually looks like alot like the Pirates pitcher today just without a few ticks on the fastball.

How's Rowley looking so far?

Fair enough and Rowley is very unlikely to be any type of long term piece so I think we're on the same page here

Bear in mind I was never an Estrada fan even when he was getting good results for those 2 seasons. I generally don't like command/control guys either given they have such a small margin of error from being half decent to being complete trash as we saw this year. However, given the jays situation on the mound right now and need for a retool, having the #5 spot filled by a league minimum earning guy from in house wouldn't be the worse situation to have.

Pillar just can't help himself. Swinging at a ball eye level and pretty much in his own batter's box

I know, I'm curious as to the reasoning too. The whole point would be to trade him for something, then sign him again in the offseason if you wanted him back

That would be ceiling though... more likely result is the 4/5 or pen arm.

On first view... yeah. Kinda makes you think he's got a Marco Estrada ceiling at best... but in his favour he throw way more ground balls. 4/5 probably isn't impossible. I don't think anyone is expecting the next Halladay

Finally a write up on Rowley that's let's us know what his stuff is: http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/the-prospect-stock-watch-senzel-mcmahon-rowley/ "Chris Rowley, RHP, Blue Jays: Rowley — who will start for Toronto on Saturday in his MLB debut — has a fun little background. He was signed as an amateur free agent after graduating West Point to help fill a void on the Jays rookie squads after the 2013 draft. He appeared in nine games with three walks and 39 Ks (with a 1.10 ERA) in 32.2 innings before leaving baseball for two years to complete a commitment to the US military. He was excused from his five-year commitment early — to become an ambassador for the military — and had an unexpectedly-good season when he was pushed to high-A despite two years of rust. Rowley produced a 3.49 ERA in 31 games (14 starts) and showed the same excellent control that he had in his debut. Moved up to double-A in 2017, the 26-year-old right-hander was at it again early in the year with outstanding numbers in 10 games (six starts). That pushed him to triple-A where he’s produced a 2.82 ERA with 15 walks and 41 Ks in 54.1 innings. All along the way he’s also produced above-average ground-ball rates. The thing about Rowley, though, is that his stuff is modest. He relies on lots of movement, changing eye levels, excellent control and a ton of moxie. His heater sits in the upper-80s and works in the 87-91 mph range most of the time. He’s made 67 appearances in his pro career with 30 of those coming as a starter suggesting Toronto isn’t sold on him as a starter. The Jays need arms — badly. So Rowley is going to start in the Majors. He has value as a big league arm but it’s likely going to be as a reliever long term. The lack of fear and incredible makeup could help him become the next Luke Gregerson – a soft-tossing right-hander who can nonetheless become a decent high-leverage reliever despite the lack of mid-90s bullets." Wouldn't it be nice to catch lightning in a bottle with this guy even he maxes out as a 4/5 SP

I kinda wish Jose would go with "Joey Bat Flips"

Speed is great when you need 1 run in the bottom of the 9th at home. It's no way to build a truly effective offense. The thing with speed is its only really useful if you get on base alot. If you're an average obp or worse... your speed doesn't really matter But I think what you're saying is the Jays could afford to lose 1 3-outcomes guy and replace with 1 speed guy. That's gonna happen on its own when Bautista is gone

Call me shocked you don't know how waivers work.

I remember one broad at where he said something about a guy who hit " a pee rod" base hit. Couldn't stop laughing since the real term is piss rod.... but he cleaned it up for TV.