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Purely my speculation but...seems all these guys have a shelf life and will run into players that they just cant figure out how to correct, fix, or maintain. Like, sure, he was the hitting coach for some great offenses, but... the players that were in those offenses are largely gone, with the exception of Vlad, Bo and Kirk, all of whom underwent fairly drastic reductions in their offensive profiles over the past 2 seasons, with now some resurgence on 2 of the 3, and the 3rd can be largely attributed to injury issues. So, it's hard to fully put it on Guillermo, but at the same time... why did it take 2 seasons to "fix" Vlad? Why did it take a ton of time to "fix" Kirk (if indeed he actually is..) How much credit does he get for Horwitz, or any of the buffalo guys when it seems that Matt Hague was largely responsible for them? Its hard to say, I think it just comes down to him having lost the ability to communicate what he wants to communicate to the players he needs to communicate it to. it's probably not that he's giving guys the wrong advice, he's just giving it in a way that they aren't getting. Maybe it took him too long to identify the mechanical problems with the aforementioned players... maybe he knew exactly what the problem was but couldn't explain the fix right. Who knows? At the end of the day, the offense has largely been declining for 2 straight seasons, so.. at some point he's going to get the blame. Some of it is on him, some of it is on the FO for trading away good hitters and not bringing back good hitters. Nature of the beast.

i know it's not really a comparable, but If i'm working for someone paying me 20+ million a year, I could give two rat shits what he thinks, and i'd probably be very tempted to take the option out of pure spite. Then I'd hire connorp to go s*** on the owner's car hood.

This. Im not from TO and ive only been to two games at the RC, but both times they were just not really good fan experiences, IMO. you got your seat, which was turned slightly away from the action and, food was far away, drink options were limited, getting up to go get your food and drink cost you at least half an inning worht of time due to lines, how far you had to go, and just the overall non-convenience of the layout. GOes without saying its been a few years since Ive been there and have not been theres since any of the new renovations so I cannot comment first hand on how it's changed, but i can say that from the outside, many of those added patios and places where people are more relaxed and actually enjoying a social occasion rather than just being glued to a seat pointed into left field, they are exactly what the place needed. I'll also say that if the only way to have fun at a sports event is to see your team win, then ... you're missing like 90% of the point. That's not to excuse poorly run teams like the perennial bottom feeders either, and no it doesn't mean that winning isn't also a part of having fun. From a purely business perspective, you want fans to come and have a great f***ing time regardless of the outcome, and then try to make sure that outcome is a win more often than not.

Agree with you here. I don't think Vlad signs anything until Soto's contract is a done deal. With the Jays of course...

Meh, the win total at this point really doesn't matter, 74 wins vs ...79? Next year's team would still have the same deficiencies so may as well play anyone and everyone that might be able to help out in any of those areas. I think they largely succeeded in that goal

Hey good news...ish. MLB reverting to previous years jerseys, which will be in effect for the road greys as of next year with the home whites to be fixed on the go throughout the season with everything back to "normal", including the larger name lettering by 2026. Also going back to players wearing their team jerseys for the AS game.

Why even engage with it? Any argument that starts with "in hindsight" or requires 5 or 6 different things to have happened in no particular order rather than what did happen without knowing anything about a players wants or mimdset or literally any actial contarcts that were or went offered.....it's just pointless whining Ignore and move on.

Theyve already cleaned out a huge chunk of the minor league pitching and hitting guys, not many left to fire

I can't search thisnsite worth a crap bur I said something like "the dbacks could very well win more games in 2024 than they did in 2023 and not make the playoffs" Can't recall the exact context but it was very likely an argument about what you're talking about. When other team squeak into the WC, it's because they're really good teams, but when the Jays do it 3 years in a row, who cares its just the WC, WC rounds aren't even really playoffs...or whatever else.

Well, it was a lifetime ban from baseball so technically the ban is now over. But will he get in? I wouldn't bet on it. Just getting the obvious jokes out of the way early, Ive always fully supported his enshrinement.

Quite. But it does make ya wonder if he'd have been close to those numbers without 2 or 3 hall of fame calibre hitters in front of him every game.

Bold would saying they do sign him

Tigers and Padres or Dodgers. Ohtani needs a ring and may as well get it out of the way early on so it won't be a story for the next 10 years.

How dare you leave such an open invitation to sodomy jokes that cannot be taken advantage of.

Actually, now that Ive looked into Kim a bit more... career-wise he's basically Clement but walks 3 times more and strikes out 1.5 times as much. Better D from Kim overall but this year its about a wash, if Clement can be this good defensively going forward.... Kim is pretty redundant.

Luckily. Less than he should given the lack of power. He'll be 29 next season...probably minimum 4 year deal. His agent will probably look at the Chapman extention as a benchmark, but he won't get that I don't think. Somewhere between a 4 and 6 year deal between 80-120 I think, and i might be high. Hard to peg those lower power, plus everything else guys.

Yeah, I mean mets fine if only a perfect throw, catch and tag nails you, and luckily it was a garbage throw... but even an average throw would have gotten him by 3 strides.

Why are people freaking out over TJ Friedl bunting in the 7th down 2-0 to break up a combined perfect game?

Ha-song Kim has played a bit of 3rd. Plus defender there too. Not a massive power guy but probably 15ish HRs. 5 fwar guy

Nice, Clase 1st major league HR. 2 run job

Bingo. It was obvious he wasn't good months ago, but you keep him around right up till the game before his bonus would kick in, because that's the point it must have become clear to the FO that he wasn't good? Sure, it doesn't matter for the onfield at this point, but it could have mattered 4 months ago and would have enabled him to try and catch on somewhere else. It's a classless move from ownership for no reason other than saving 200k.

Clements defense is very suspect. Lots of opportunities missed tonight for him to stop the bleeding and he couldn't. Not errors...but plays that need to be made.

Yeah, he hasn't been great. But..that wasn't obvious long before he got within 4 PA of 200k I guess. It's a joke really.

Rowdy Tellez DFA by the Pirates just 4 PA shy of a $200,000 incentive. Classy org.

Its interesting to see how people view teams who end up with similar records when the season is done. Seems to me that the timing of their losing streaks matter.