John_Havok

Kinda makes ya think the Jays better not completely turf defense next season, or this could be them next August

I know right... he checks every box they want to check in a position player, it's just that he'll have so many teams in on him. Way more teams will be on him than there were on Ohtani. Washington, San Fran, both NY teams, of course the Dodgers, Seattle should be, Toronto. And of course Team X will be Biggest kick in the dick would be Baltimore finally paying for a real FA.

5th. The 1st game technically counts as a June game.

We don't need back of the rotation piece, need top end to push other guys down.

Checked the rulebook to clarify: When a batter leaves the game with two strikes against him, and the substitute batter completes a strikeout, the Official Scorer shall charge the strikeout and the time at bat to the first batter. If the substitute batter completes the turn at bat in any other manner, including a base on balls, the Official Scorer shall score the action as having been that of the substitute batter. So basically of its a 2 strike count and the su stature batter strikes out...it's charged to the original hitter. If anything else happens, it goes to the sub. Rule 9.15( I take the L

Yeah, according to tye rules, if a hitter is replaced mid PA and a the substitute gets on base...it counts for the first guy. But if the sub hitter gets out, it counts against the sub

If that's the case then there's no rush at all on him. Did the Covid thing grant an extra year of control for all those kids?

Roden must be Rule 5 eligible this offseason right?

Well, tyhe fun thing about it, since the Sox put in Jansen to catch, he was behind the plate for his own pinch-hit PA. Had Varsho hit a HR, it still would have been credited to Jansen, who then would have been behind the plate for his own HR.

What's weirder is that the King of everyone's steroid butthurt, Bonds, only topped 50 once when he hit 73

Weird...

He's also not on the 40 man, so they'd have to DFA someone. Not that they couldn't find a reliever to turf easily enough, just sayin.

What was the score at the time?

Soto - Judge - Stanton go back to back to back today. Judge with another 2 HR game.

What did I miss? I was out running errands.

Same reason as all the other Buffalo players, auditions. They could do worse than having a switch hitting back-up CF with plus plus speed on the bench. Even with his garbage bat so far he's a positive contributor thanks to defense and baserunning. That said, he does need to show more with the stick than he has. Needs the wRC+ to be minimum ~80-85, 55 so far.

Was is a risk? Sure. Judge hitting 60 bombs, while... surprising on some levels, wasn't all that surprising if he stayed healthy for a full season. The entire league could see that. Dude is walking mountain that could fall out of bed and hit 40 HRs by accident.

You're technically correct, but also downplaying the significant impacts of Vlad's bad baserunning and defensive liabilities. I also think you're really down playing the significance of 70 bases per season. That's 17 HRs worth of walks. Sure, 70 walks isn't directly equal to 17 HRs, but it's quite a large difference in the totality of a season when you combine it with the bad D and bad baserunning. You're other question about whether front offices care... of course they do. It's just a matter of how much they care about those other factors limiting the value of the player vs the rest of the team. A team with overall great D and great baserunning wont give 2 shits about Vlad bad D and baserunning as long as he's hitting 40+ HRs per season. Maybe that's a general truth for any player. Here's how I look at the situation. If I'm a GM and I have Soto and Vlad as available, at the same time, in free agency, which guy am I going to prioritize if both positions they play is an area of need? My answer is Soto based on the total package, 10 times out of 10. That's not a slight on Vlad either, it's just the reality that Soto is a much more valuable player on the field than Vlad is when you're looking at total wins.

You are incorrect. Judge was always near the top of the wRC+ boards. His issue was health, which decreased his overall fWAR. He was always a top end hitter, who just couldn't stay on the field.

I agree. What's encouraging ands kinda weird so far is the changes in his stuff+ and location+ from this season to last, along with the introduction of the splitter. FA STUFF+/location+ went from 109/104 in 2023 to 95/105 in 2024 Slider: didn't throw enough in 2023 to register; 2024 is 90/117 Splitter: didn't throw at all until 2024; 106/105 Curve: went from 96/104 to 102/93 He's even experimenting a bit with a sinker this season, but nowhere near enough pitches to judge it yet. Pitch mix from 2023 to RHB was FB/CU/SL at 45/33/23% respectively. To LHB he was basically a 2 pitch guy, FB/CU at 58/35% and sprinkled 7% SL. Pitch mix 2024 to RHB FB/CU/SPL/SL/SINK is 51/22/10/14/3, vs LHB it's FB/CU/SPL/SL with 54/19/27/1 Whiff rates overall per pitch 2023 to 2024 FA:increased 16.9 to 18.6 CU: decreased 35.5 to 22.4 SL: increased 25.8 to 40.5 Split: no data in 2023, 22% 2024. For RHB went from a 3 pitch mix to 4, for LHB, a 2 pitch mix to 3. Really good velo separation from the SPL to the FA too at about 10 MPH. Some other weirdness in his numbers though, like the SL and CU are getting nuked... like the wOBA/xWOBA for his CU is .416/.330 and the slider is .558/.365. That's crazy. Similarly but in reverse, for the FA wOBA/xWOBA is .291/.334 SPL is just really good... .180/.184 Key takeaway - having the splitter being a legit well above average offering and the 2 breaking balls is allowing his FA to play up, even with worse stuff+ from last season on that pitch. Reduced reliance on the breakers is resulting in less overall damage even though those two pitches are not playing well individually.

It's certainly possible. They've been willing to spend big in the past, no reason why they couldn't again.

Judge got 9/360 - he's the clear #1 in baseball as a hitter. He was going into his age 31 season. Soto, the #2 or #5 depending on how you want to look at it... will be going into his age 26 season as a clear FA. Vlad, the #10/#40, will be going into his age 26 season with 1 season of control left. Soto is probably looking at a 13 year deal with an AAV somewhere between 40 and 45 million. Vlad ... i don't see it. I think Vlad will max out in the mid 30s for AAV... maybe 33-36. I don't think he gets the 13 years either. I think the differences in their two deals will be significant. And, if either of their agents think it's smart to bring up Ohtani as a comparable... laughable.

First, 70 walks is 70 bases. That's kind of a big deal. The reason wRC+ exists is to make these things easier to glance at and see who is demonstrably better, even when certain counting stats are similar. Since 2018, Soto's wRC+ is 158. Since Vlad joined the league, Vlad's wRC+ is 136. 22 points of wRC+ is significant. As is the bSr difference of -8.6 for Soto's career vs -13.6 for Vlads. Not a major difference there, but still a difference. Defense... Soto -49.2, Vlad -90. Kind of a big deal. I get that these types of mega deals probably don't get too much into the weeds of defense and baserunning, but ... even just at a glance, Soto is clearly a better hitter, runs the bases better, and is worth more defensively. The differences between the two players cannot simply be boiled down to "The only difference is 70 walks." BTW, since 2018, Soto is #2 in all of MLB in wRC+ behind only Judge, whos also better than Soto defensively and in baserunning. Then... there's fWAR. Exact same time frame for WAR, which will slightly penalize Vlad since he has about 120 less games played than Soto and a few others in the leaderboard, Soto still ranks top 5 at 35.8 fWAR. Vlad???? 40th at 15.9. Right behind Vlad? Whit Merrifield at 15.8. Even adding on 120 games worth for Vlad's averages would put him around 25th... or so. So, Soto #2 and #5 in wRC+ and fWAR. Vlad... #10 and #40. "The only difference is 70 walks."

Ideally yes, but you know Vlads camp is going to be waiting until Soto's deal is announced before they agree to anything. I can't seriously think they think Vlad and Soto are in the same level, but...waiting until the absolute elite guy signs is always the way to go for the guys in the next tier down, even if it's just and extension rather than a FA deal.

The hype train for Francis begins today. All aboard!