Laika
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Why make this assumption? It's incredibly dishonest. You have no idea what they could get for Giles. The irony of this sentence; neither does an extension. They can (and should) trade Ken Giles and still spend the money that would have gone to him on the MLB roster. Yet you think extending a guy like Giles is going to be cakewalk and Toronto is going to come away paying 70 cents on the market dollar? There's just an incredible amount of wilful blindness, dishonesty, and incoherence in most of what you are saying. Plan A needs to be to trade Giles. If there is no decent return available, maybe the team pivots to extension talks, but that should be the clear Plan B.
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That's not "risk tolerance"; it's ignorance. Toronto could trade Giles at the deadline for a player or players who can contribute over the next ~6 seasons, then make a point to sign a lockdown RP in free agency before 21. The MLB team would be in substantially the same position for 2021, financially and in terms of talent, had they extended Ken Giles, but they would have ~47 exciting years of control over players in addition to that. Your idea doesn't accelerate any process, in theory. It just misses out on value. It has nothing to do with optimism. Are you Ken Giles or something? Enough of this in my Mookie thread though.
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The planet where Giles is a f***ing reliever who could explode at any minute and they should be able to get a premium return for him. Then they can just sign a free agent reliever! You’ll never get it, clearly, but it is what it is
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Even substantially worse relievers have returned some interesting, valuable, and in most cases MLB-ready or near MLB-ready returns in recent years. Shane Greene got Joey Wentz and Travis Demeritte Chris Martin got Kolby Allard Sergio Romo got Lewin Diaz Keona Kela got Taylor Hearn Roberto Osuna got Giles himself + other pieces Chasen Shreve + Giovanny Gallegos got Luke Voit Brad Hand got Francisco Mejia Tony Watson got Oneil Cruz (wasn't close to MLB but a great return) Justin Wilson got Jeimer Candelario and Isaac Paredes David Phelps got Pablo Lopez Sean Doolitle + Ryan Madson got Blake Treinen, Sheldon Neuse, and Jesus f***ing Luzardo This isn't really rocket science. Not trading Ken Giles probably makes the team worse over time and even has a chance to make the team worse in the mid/short term.
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Has there been an elite reliever trade in recent memory that has not returned a "difference maker"?
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Let’s also not forget the reports/rumours that Toronto made offers or overtures to Strasburg and Cole...
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Laika replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Wow, aggressively ableist language from someone with a disability!!! Shocked I am -
We live in a post Ryu world. You should have a shred of faith at least!
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Just making this thread so we can start getting excited about Toronto landing Mookie Betts next offseason. - they'll have all the payroll space in the world - there will be a wide open spot in the OF in all likelihood - the team will be ready to win - the organization will be ready to spend - he will plug one of the biggest systemic holes since the organization does not have premium OF prospects - Boston won't be able to afford him - Some other big money teams might be at or near their payroll limits It's nearly time for Rogers to hand out the biggest contract for a position player in MLB FA history. Mookie is the one to do it for.
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Urena is going to hit .350 in April isn't he?
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Six years ago!? What is this, Jumanji? Peralta projects better than Calhoun which is all that really matters, but he projects better because he has been more consistently good recently. What happened from 2014-2016 might as well have been done by Kole Calhoun's grandpa for all it's worth.
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I don't love the comp. Peralta has been basically league average even in his down years, whereas Calhoun has oscillated between replacement level and league average over the last three years. Peralta is the better projected player. Peralta was projected to get nearly $9M in arbitration so he's only tacking $13M guaranteed onto that. I think even if he has a down year for David Peralta he'd be an attractive enough commodity to get a Calhoun type free agent deal. Sure, he could suffer a huge injury but everyone in baseball has that risk. I'm sick of you f***ing pussies saying that every player taking guaranteed money is doing something smart. Have a sack with two testicles in it, for f***s sake. Try to think about these things like a multi-millionaire with a pair of nuts would, not like some Canadian civil servant making $50k a year with s***** benefits and two weeks vacation.
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Seems like a bit of a raw deal for Peralta. I don't know if he really gained anything; he gets that money in all likelihood even if he has a pedestrian season. But this extension kills his chance at a much richer contract, and this guy has two 4 win seasons on his resume.
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General 2020 Blue Jays Discussion Thread
Laika replied to Bobthe4th's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
They won't use him as a post-opener. Glasnow has been used in that role by Tampa Bay in part because of his early career struggles; with Pittsburgh Glasnow looked like a SP bust and he was being resigned into a pure relief role. Toronto is going to hope that Nate Pearson is a Power Horse MLB SP a la Syndergaard, Cole, etc. and they will develop him like that to the point of failure. -
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Actually true. There is perhaps no better organization in the sport right now. Pretty unfortunate to not have won another stanley cup during this decade.
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phew
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Big Austin Dean fan here
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Bringer of Rain Elite Dynasty - - bjmbleagues.com
Laika replied to spittin's topic in Fantasy Sports
I got PTSD from this post -
Bringer of Rain Elite Dynasty - - bjmbleagues.com
Laika replied to spittin's topic in Fantasy Sports
Ohtendi! -
Imagine if the Blue Jays miss the playoffs by 1 game in 2025. Think of what that one more piece might have been worth!
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RIP Shatkins 2015-2020 did not get enough throw-ins
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You think Cal Stevenson for Derek Fisher is an even MLB trade? Lol alrighty then.
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It would have been nice to get something for nothing but that’s not really how the universe works, gloryhole
