nobody was "making fun" of him
his ATL track record speaks for itself
I simply said his recent series of moves were kind of nuts. Not that the moves themselves were bad, in context, but his handling of multiple assets leading up to being forced to make these moves was questionable.
Then jaysblue did his usual ******** and accused me of having a personal vendetta against AA!
wow!
Very similar prospect flops, Kelenic and Snider
Kelenic still has a chance of course but his "mean projection" rest of career probably looks close to Snider's career. i.e. one or two more useful seasons but just a platoon corner OF who stops getting work by 30.
Can't see the Braves even giving White MLB playing time unless they suffer multiple injuries.
Worst case scenario for Kelenic is replacement level or worse.
I don't really think Kelenic is worth $31M
Probably a decent move by the Ms to be honest. If they end up bringing in offense.
Braves need to fix Kelenic to profit which is entirely possible
I don't know why this is hard for you to understand
AA rode 3/4 assets all the way to the point where they were worth nothing, and then had to dump them for nothing.
All of them were actual assets at some point in recent history, some as recently as pre 2023.
Just bad internal evaluations and bad asset management. Very clear.
It's just total asset mismanagement leading up to the roster crunch and trade
He could have dealt Shewmake alone one year ago for this much value. Or Soroka. Or Shuster.
That whole trade was honestly f***ing insane and people don't talk about it enough.
Lopez - yeah projections are for 1 WAR and he is a 1 WAR player but he is literally 3 years removed from a 6 WAR season and he's only going to make $4M
Soroka - was an ace in 2019 then we all know what happened. But was only going to make like $4M. Kind of dominated AAA in 2023...
Shuster - 2020 first rounder, I believe he was their #1 org prospect at some point recently
Shewmake - 2019 first rounder, weak numbers, bit of a Groshans thing
Gowens - good numbers, apparently has a good FB
all for Aaron Bummer.
It could blow up so bad for AA, in so many ways.
Think about it though.
Shiny new stadium interior will be completely done next year, it has been a multi-year process.
Toronto the ultimate international city. Uncle Tetsu's is here.
The Blue Jays core has been treading water, struggling to get to that "next level" of playoff success or division winning.
Corporate owner that is uniquely positioned to squeeze all the juice out of Ohtani.
Looking less and less likely that Bo will extend here, or that Vlad will even be worth an extension, so the 2025 on payroll is more open.
Short term, one of the biggest issues was LHB thump in the lineup...
Toronto should probably be blowing LAD out of the water to make this happen
I mean.... the White Sox were are so bad that they had roster space for a bunch of players few other teams would even want. Most of those guys were about to get non-tendered by ATL.
I am keeping Trout if I am in win now mode
I think you can do better than just Jordan Walker. Would prefer a better prospect. But would probably trade Trout for one elite prospect.
Walker has some mild warts. Kelenic vibes. Eloy vibes.
On the contrary, I think the fact that he goes both ways makes him a bit more resilient to aging.
If he loses bat speed at 34 and is striking out 30% of the time, and continuously pulling his groin running to first...... just make him a full time pitcher.
And on the other side, if he develops TOS and can only throw 91 and just plain sucks.... he's a DH. Or a 1B, or OF. Whatever.
Like, he could experience COMPLETE AND UTTER CAREER RUINING DISASTER on one side of the ball and just continue along as a 2-4 win player on the flipside.
ANTI-FRAGILE.
I don't think there is a 40% chance that the team would get little to nothing from him as a SP since the present talent is so high. But there is a chance that he is never as good.
I don't know the rates on 2nd TJS recovery. The date is fuzzy anyway since most players with MLB track records who have a second surgery are old, anyway. But there are some examples of guys who were never the same. Mike Clevinger is one active one. He want from a front end starter in 2018/2019 to a pretty meh arm.
It's a distinct possibility that the next version of POhtani is no longer an ACE quality arm. If he's just an innings eater SP, then the benefit of having him on the bump at all needs to be scrutinized.
Darvish's posting was hype but still kind of in the shadow of DiceK, who was a big flop. The contract ended up being really good. He was only 25 and should have been as hyped as Yamamoto is right now. I wonder if the context actually depressed Darvish's initial contract significantly.