Laika

did you block whoever started it

They all suck, surely you can find better dudes Try harder

No you see we need our own Kevin Parada

He's like the Jordan Walker starter package, except LHB Would be fine in R2 and maybe even fine under slot in R1 depending on the rest of the draft

Damn the Jays' comp pick for Chapman is way down at 136 Disgusting! I guess it gives them more flexibility with money though, if they want to take a tougher sign / dropper at 20th or 59th.

I don't know the stats but it just seems like they bust a lot

I really don't like taking catchers with bad defense. Moore just doesn't seem like a 1st rounder to me. His OPS is substantially lower than other Pac12 draft guys like Nick McLain who are ranked like 200th.

I'd love to see Toronto pick this 5'6" guy Slade Caldwell

#25 Moore, a draft-eligible sophomore, is going to end up with a team that values batted-ball data over performance — he had terrible luck at the plate this spring but he was not punching out and his contact quality points to a higher average than he had on balls in play. Moore hit .255/.414/.553 for the Cardinal with just a .229 BABIP, a full hundred points down from his BABIP as a freshman, even though he makes plenty of hard contact. There was a little more than bad luck at work here, to be fair; he put a lot of non-strikes in play and had worse results on those pitches than he did on pitches in the zone, so there’s a pitch selection aspect to his performance as well. He has great bat speed and had no trouble with elite velocity the few times he saw this spring. Moore is a below-average defender right now and scouts are mixed on whether he can stay at catcher; the arm is the worst tool here and his other deficiencies could improve with different coaching. He’s going to be a bat-first catcher if he stays there. ^ Keith Law 3 days ago I'd rather see them swing for the fences with a prep SS or very toolsy college player

sss in his whole career decent xFIP in his whole career decent K-BB numbers decent stuff+ and location+

Yeah Crochet is a tougher trade to make. Flaherty and Kikuchi could be the #1 and #2 in some order Even a guy like Scherzer, there are big performance and health questions Kikuchi is the clearest "hired gun" on the market IMO Teams will like that he can be a pen lefty sometimes in a deep playoff run as well

Yeah absolutely, expectations for RT are way down. It would be wild to think he has top of the rotation upside anymore. I think the most anybody can reasonably hope for would be an SP4 and not one that eats innings. Or a closer. He might ultimately have a higher ceiling but even if it works out that ceiling is years away. He would probably break into the league as a 1 WAR pitcher who can throw 100 innings and then ideally improve from then on. Sort of like the Kikuchi experience?

Really sad tbh

I believe he went 5 IP at least once in the AFL at the end of 2023. 5 IP 80 pitches. It was the Kyle Harrison development plan, basically. The old school idea is that guys need to carry a SP workload in the minors so that you know they can do it in the majors. But modern sports science might disagree and say that puts players into unnecessary injury risk? I dunno. Think about outside examples. If you are training for a marathon you don't actually go out and run marathons on the weekend. In fact, most marathon training plans have you never run that full distance until race day. Applying the same logic to baseball and SP development... if a guy in the minors can stay mostly healthy and give you 70+ pitches and 4 IP in AA for 20 starts, or whatever, then that might be enough information to just deploy him as a normal MLB starter. I dunno!

Flaherty and Kikuchi are simple deals. Rentals. Appeal to every buyer. All of the non-rentals like Crochet, Eflin, Fedde are harder to sell because the buyer side of the market is smaller. Not everybody wants to pay more prospect capital for a controllable starter. Cleveland for example probably wants to pay as little as possible for a 2024 rotation upgrade - they will prefer Kikuchi or Flaherty. I am sure there are other such cases.

second time this season that Bo has done this - talked to out of town reporters about playing there or getting traded generally. the sheer arrogance of it while the dude has a .596 OPS

Honestly the lost development time is a bigger concern for both. Whether it's mono and gonorrhea or old fashioned TJS, sucks to see prospects like this lose entire seasons of their prime and completely set back their development.

Not all players have their K rates increase in a predictable and linear way Some guys go 26% in A ball, 26% in AA, then 30% in MLB and they can stick if they have enough power Some go 20% in A ball, 25% in AA, then 35% in MLB and they can't stick You are right, it depends on the HOW of the strikeouts He's not a star but he did have 3.6 WAR last year - look at Nolan Jones for example. If Nimmala makes it it probably looks something like that climb. 36.6% in rookie ball at 18 with no homers. 25% in A ball at 20 with .186 ISO 26% in A+ at 21 and 30% in AA at 21 with some power 30% in AAA at 23 with power in 2021 2023, 29.7% in MLB with .245 ISO

horrendous f***ing system

Extreme pull and flyball rates, but with a better contact rate and way more max power... It would be like some amalgamation of Jose Ramirez and Kyle Schwarber Can think of it like Schwarber with a touch more power and a lot more AVG because half of the K rate. Or think of it like Jose Ramirez with more homers, more raw power. I don't really think Varsho's issue can be characterized as a simple launch angle problem. It's really a total "s***** hitter" problem. So many bad swings.

So the Nate Pearson story was something like this: Pre 2019 - top 100 prospect, consensus 2019 - 100 IP great numbers Pre 2020 - top 20 prospect, consensus 2020 - COVID season, delayed start, 18 innings, then flexor strain 2021 - core injury ruins his season, just 45 innings between MLB and AAA and most of the MLB innings are in relief. sports hernia surgery resulted. 2022 - mono and lat strain, just 15.1 innings all in the minors 2023 - no longer a starter. good numbers in AAA in 40 innings but too many walks. replacement level 20 innings in MLB but okay K-BB and good stuff. 2024 - slight improvements as an MLB reliever, still looks like a potential setup man or closer with continued development but he's 28 in two months and into arbitration. Not really much of an asset anymore unless he comes a dominant RP. So far the RT story is: 2022 - great numbers 78 innings 19 years old pre-2023 - consensus top 40 prospect 2023 - 44 innings, good numbers but shoulder and biceps injuries take lots of time from him pre-2024 - consensus top 40 prospect 2024 - hamstring injury, elbow injury (nerve inflammation), elbow injury now again, only 17 innings and likely another mostly lost season like 2023. he turns 22 in a month. I guess the perspective on RT is that he has a good amount of time before we should write him off. He is 22 in a month. His age 22 season will be 2025 Nate Pearson's age 22 season was in fact his breakout 2019. So Tiedemann is way ahead of Pearson's timeline, at least. Age is a major factor in his favour.

There are more than you think. Likely getting sold: Flaherty, Crochet, Kikuchi, Fedde Might get sold: Scherzer, Snell, Severino, Eovaldi, Montas, Montgomery And then a dozen other obviously worse pitchers who could get sold Of course, salary and talent make Kikuchi better than most of those names but not all of them. The Jays may not actually get a haul since there could be some viable alternatives.

talking about yourself?

Yeah it got pretty f***ing dark after the WS years 55 wins in 1995 just two years removed from winning it all, gross

been a while 2019 they were bad bad but there were no expectations and it was Vlad/Bo rookie year which was fun 2012 they were bad but they did have post-breakout JB and breakout season EE along with the hyped Brett Lawrie and some younger SP everyone was excited for going forward 2009, bad but Doc pitched 239 innings so that was fun 2004, bad they were pretty brutal and Doc was banged up all year, no fun. Also Delgado's swan song that must have been depressing as f***. 2004 I guess.