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Not even ASAP. It's just not allowed during the season. So in the future when we have full minor league rosters, if you have 12 prospects and you make a trade to bring in a prospect, you'll have to cut someone as part of that trade (or throw someone back to the other guy, if he wants the player). Right now during the draft we've capped picks + prospects at 12, so the same logic applies, except we've stated that you cannot cut picks or prospects while the draft is going on, so it would all have to be worked into the trade. If it would take multiple trades to work that out then you'd have to hold off on agreeing and announcing the first one until you'd found that second necessary trade. It would all have to be simultaneous. No window or anything. In the offseason there is, of course, no roster limits. We just have a cut down date in the spring where everyone cuts down to 12 minor leaguers and 20 big leaguers.

As per the recent trade, it's actually Silvergun that's on the clock

You've been up in the DDL for like, nine hours!

So not counting 2013, something like: 2.5 WAR 3.25 WAR 3.5 WAR 3.75 WAR 4 WAR For, let's say, 24 million total. vs. Bautista's: 4 WAR 3.5 WAR 3 WAR for 42 million. Seems like a no-brainer. And recognizing that in any given season, both of them have crazy 6+ win upside, Profar gives you two more D20 rolls at benefiting from such years.

I get that, but I guess I would counter that it's more about his particular profile than the fact that he "topped the lists". Even completely separate from his placement on the woefully murky, scouting dependent top prospect lists, Profar's statistical profile just screams "phenom". Shortstop that looks good at shortstop, with an age vs. level that is like two standard deviations above the norm at every stop, with a career minor league walk rate of 12.7%, K rate of 13.9%, and ISO of .182. Throw in SB speed and the 78% SB rate, the batting average and how good the hit tool looks, in addition to all the other tools.... he's just not normal. Not a normal top 10 hitting prospect. Same can be said about a guy like Oscar Taveras. It's factors like: age vs. level * taking walks * power without having to sell out AT ALL for it * defensive profile

That's what they list for "present worth discounted WAR", since a win in 6 years is worth less than a win now. But we didn't discount Bau's future WARz so I just looked at the six year average sums that they had.

Well, I am biased in the sense that I'm on one side of the argument. Having seen them both play, I would say that Harper is a very good RF and Profar is a very good SS. Closer to 18 according to this But even to call him a "top 10 hitting prospect" is a bit dubious. That lumps him in with guys like d'Arnaud. Profar was arguably the top prospect in baseball, period, heading into 2013. Right now he's probably a top 3 hitting prospect with Oscar and Buxton, in some order. He's a top 10 hitting prospect in the same sense that Longo is a top 10 3B. If piratesprospects re-binned the top end of their study to "top 3 hitting prospects" instead of top 10, I wonder how much the proj surp would change.

Yeah. Hang onto him for the off chance that Toronto makes a miracle push for the 2nd wildcard spot. Offer him the 13M or whatever, qualifying offer. If he declines, cool. If he accepts, cool.

Maybe the Harper talent comp is a bit hyperbolic before he's done anything. Or maybe not. One of them has slick SS chops, and the other one is a good corner outfielder. The playing field isn't exactly level. Harper, born in 1992, OPS'd .817 in 2012 and it was borderline other-worldy (considering his age). I really think Profar, born in 1993, could OPS .750 right now, and considering his position I'm pretty sure that would be in nearly the same league of value all things considered. But I think you gave Bautista an extra year of control there. It's something like (2ish + 4 + 3.5 + 3) for ~50M. If it's 8/WAR then that's like, 50M surplus through 2016. Profar would crush that. Three league average years at league minimum (probably well below his mean projection for the next 3 years) and he'd already be approaching 50M in surplus value (in the fantastical 8M/WAR paradigm), even before he hits arbitration.

This place is dumb. Ju1ced, burn it down.

Not sure. Completely different class of prospect though. Mike Olt is/was pretty overrated. 302 strikeouts in 270 minor league games. He's just another one of those strikeouts vs. power lottery tickets without an up-the-middle defensive profile. Profar just turned 20 and he's in the big leagues with a .760 OPS. He's insane. All things considered, as talented as a guy like Bryce Harper.

Profar is 100x the player that Wil Myers is. Texas would be drunk to trade Profar for 2 or 3 expensive years of mid 30's Bautista. It would be grand f***ing larceny. Bautista for Kinsler makes sense, in a nutshell. I doubt even that happens though, because the respective personalities seem to important to both clubs.

hahahahaha simmer down kids.

And, in the annoying words of Silvio, "Let's go!!!!!!!!!"

Updated remaining draft order, with recent trades accounted for. Double check your own picks to make sure everything is in order. 44 Taijuan On! 45 BALCO Pharm Team 46 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 47 SpeedyGose 48 ISO Horny 49 Twist and Trout 50 Got Head For Miles 51 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 52 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 53 Georgia Peach 54 B. Inge Drinking 55 A Wrench In The Plan 56 London Slayers 57 B. Inge Drinking 58 Jurassic Kats 59 B. Inge Drinking 60 BALCO Pharm Team /////////////////////////// 61 The Lyon Tamer 62 The True Cardinals 63 Butt Stallions 64 Gryffindor 65 Taijuan On! 66 Butt Stallions 67 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 68 Georgia Peach 69 Jurassic Kats 70 A Wrench In The Plan 71 A 2nd Leg To Stanton 72 Twist and Trout 73 ISO Horny 74 SpeedyGose 75 Butt Stallions 76 The Lyon Tamer 77 B. Inge Drinking 78 The True Cardinals 79 Oppo Taco 80 (Insert clever name) ///////////////////////////// 81 Taijuan On! 82 The True Cardinals 83 A Wrench in the Plan 84 The True Cardinals 85 (insert clever name) 86 ISO Horny 87 SpeedyGose 88 (insert clever name) 89 Twist and Trout 90 B. Inge Drinking 91 Taijuan On! 92 BALCO Pharm Team 94 B. Inge Drinking 95 A 2nd Leg To Stanton 96 Butt Stallions 97 Gryffindor 98 A 2nd Leg To Stanton 99 Butt Stallions 100 The True Cardinals ////////////////////////////// 101 The Lyon Tamer 102 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 103 A 2nd Leg To Stanton 104 Gryffindor 105 London Slayers 106 A 2nd Leg To Stanton 107 B. Inge Drinking 109 Triple Hawpe Brewed! 110 The Lyon Tamer 111 A Wrench In The Plan 112 Twist and Trout 113 ISO Horny 114 SpeedyGose 115 Jurassic Kats 116 A Wrench in the Plan 117 BALCO Pharm Team 118 London Slayers 119 Oppo Taco 120 Jurassic Kats

Gibbers' window expires at about 11pm Seems like we've had a lot of wet blanket full window users this draft. Yeesh. If you guys are gonna be AFK and your pick is coming up, feel free to leave your top choice with a commish or trusted person who won't be picking for a while. Boxy has already done it twice, and both times it has greatly helped the draft move along. Let's move it along, dickbags.

Looking to add a front end SP Will move Zunino + The Bartender Zunino, of course, could be stashed in the minors or added directly to your starting C spot.

Basically. Almost identical career slashies. Bourn has more SB upside, but he's also way older and CF isn't even close to as scarce as SS.

Name dropping in that sense is pretty retarded.

I have like, 9 or 10 guys on my board that I still really like. 4 more picks but don't pick again until R4. Every time my email gets a bump I say a little prayer to the ghost of the prospect version of Jesus Montero, asking that he spare my top targets.

Wondering if anyone is gonna take a gamble on Courtney Hawkins towards the end of this draft. The strikeout rate is disgustingly terrible, but the power isn't (.355 ISO!!!) and the age vs. level isn't either (19 in A+ is very solid). The K rate was way lower last year, so it's possible that he's working on something right now. lol, nvm he got drafted in February

This is just sad at this point. We were all hoping he would at least get marginally better. Just OBP .300 or something like that. But no, he somehow got worse. And the saddest thing is that he's not even close to being Toronto's worst every day player. Maicer Izturis, please stand up. Equally sad, Toronto's top four pitchers in fWAR right now: Cecil, Janssen, Juan Perez, Delabar. f***. How can anyone even watch this team every night? I haven't watched back to back games, or a full game, in weeks.

picked for Boxy

I'm surprised Dinger sold on Yordano. But I guess a bird in the hand is worth two on the minor league roster, or whatever.

Posted. Batting order for today: 26 Oppo Taco 27 B. Inge Drinking 28 Georgia Peach 29 The Uphill Gardners 30 Got Head for Miles 31 The Uphill Gardners 32 ISO Horny 33 Got Head For Miles 34 SpeedyGose