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Anyway, for everyone who isn't going to wade through the last several pages, I'd like to move one or more of Belt/Syndergaard/1st for an SP2 type with multiple good years remaining.
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No, he's a part-time Melky Cabrera if you're unlucky and he gets traded. To be fair, I didn't set out to trash CarGo in this thread. I commented on Yelich/CarGo after Dinger mentioned that he traded Yelich + for CarGo in another league, and then defended my opinion last night when Boxy mocked me.
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You could just trade him to me and let me worry about regression!
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Holliday was a much better hitter than Gonzalez is though. True talent 140 wRC+ guy when he left Coors. He maintained that after leaving, with obviously a much smaller wOBA. Cargo will still be good if he leaves, you'd just expect him to produce like a Melky Cabrera who plays 115 games a year. Solid, but not elite.
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North should get in on this since his boy Kemp is basically CarGo with better health and a worse home park.
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I used wOBA because wRC+ is a silly way to look at the effect Coors has had on his performance. Though now that I check, his 101 road wRC+ is legitimately bizarre. Anyway, the point is that his value is tied to Coors, and it really isn't debateable.
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It shouldn't have. A one-season split like that is pretty meaningless. He has a 0.324 wOBA on the road in his career, and has a career 121 wRC+. Steamer has him at 120 and ZiPS 116. That's worse than Billy Butler and Brandon Belt. He's good, but he loses a ton of value outside Coors. And that's beside the fact that he's probably going to play less than 75% of the schedule in a given season.
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Maybe, but betting on his health from 29 onward when he's averaged less than 120 games per year since breaking into the league is probably not a good idea. And so much of his value is tied to Coors. He's a 115-120 wRC+ guy. Good, but not outstanding. I dunno, I just don't trust him long-term.
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I wouldn't. Yelich is a borderline top-50 player in our format this year at 22, and I expect him to grow into more power. He's really, really good and has 6 years and health on CarGo. I don't think Gonzalez is going to age gracefully.
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CarGo post aside, those are pretty week. Dig deeper. Also, Yelich is so studly.
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Ouch. He might just be finished as a good reliever. It really is a shame they didn't sell.
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Finish the job and find pre- and post- average velo plz. Thx
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It would be interesting to see his velo pre- and post-flu. Because he's at 89 on the season now, but he might actually be sitting 87 or 88 right now.
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Have I? and lol
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I think I predicted 78. Definitely looks possible now.
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At his current level, a reasonable salary is like 600K + a bonus or two. Velo down to 89 and he's not fooling anybody.
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Is this the BBDL thread? Silvergun slumming it in the gutters.
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I see what you're doing here, and I don't like it.
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So after trading Salazar for Belt before the season... I might be looking to move Belt for a starter again. He's had two freak injuries this year (hit in the hand, and hit in the mellon), but both Steamer and ZiPS have him as a 125+ wRC+ guy, and he's just 26 years old. I'm looking for a pretty good young starter here.
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Yeah, Valencia is good at a few things that could make him useful. He can be Lind's platoon partner at DH/1B, and he can be part of a 3B platoon if Lawrie plays 2B or gets injured, and he can play 1B. A competent team can probably squeeze a win out of him if he's used properly.
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Felix and Kuma combining for like 12 wins this year goes a loooong way, especially with Young having one of the luckiest seasons ever.
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Sheeeeit, GD throwing down the hammer.
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It's sad because I'm pretty sure they were friends IRL before a falling out over fantasy baseball.
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s*** is getting real.
