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Just now, neverbeenhere said:

Maybe it is because these days pitchers are throwing at much higher velocity? Back in the days, fast balls were mostly thrown at 90 mph.

Off-speed pitches wreck arms (particularly young arms) quicker than fastballs.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Alex Cora is smarter. He will ride Crochet 120-130 pitches no problem, Read bats not pitches.

Hallelujah! 

Granted, they have the back end of the bullpen that they don't have to push it. If Yankees had a Whitlock type to go to in that instance, pulling Fried would not be as much of a problem. 

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There is no way you take Chrochet out of the game until he at least allows 1 base runner or runs up his pitch count in the 8th.  This was the way postseason baseball was meant to be played when you have a true ace. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, neverbeenhere said:

Maybe it is because these days pitchers are throwing at much higher velocity? Back in the days, fast balls were mostly thrown at 90 mph.

Fried was clearly losing his command when Boone pulled him.  Right call.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Omar said:

There is some merit to the strategy that if you are going to face an absolute ace like Crochet in game one of a short series then you should position your ace (Fried) to pitch game two instead of game one.  

I've seen teams plan like that in the past, before analytics, hahaha... but it holds water for sure.

 

Posted
Just now, M.E. said:

So will Fried/Crochet pitch game 2 of our series?

Most likely.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Omar said:

Fried was clearly losing his command when Boone pulled him.  Right call.

And yet the guy who came on allowed 3 consecutive baserunners.  Ateast allow Fried to put on 1 baserunner before pulling him with the results he was achieving.

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Just now, Jays24 said:

And yet the guy who came on allowed 3 consecutive baserunners.  Ateast allow Fried to put on 1 baserunner before pulling him.  

And Fried may have allowed four runs if left in. Just conjecture. 

Posted
Just now, neverbeenhere said:

This Williams is our Hoffman v2, if I understand correctly.

Except the Yankees removed him from the closers role even though Williams had a much better track record.  

Posted
10 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Just wait until he calls for Hoffman in the 9th or pulls Bieber/Gausman throwing a perfect game but its the 3rd time through the order lol. 

*sighs* 💩's 👖's.

Posted
Just now, Omar said:

And Fried may have allowed four runs if left in. Just conjecture. 

I said at least 1 baserunner.  And id rather go down with my ace than a bullpen arm that isnt at a prime Andrew Miller level.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

*sighs* 💩's 👖's.

Just preparing myself in case it happens, I wont lose my s***.  Every playoff run the Jays have made very questionable moves. 

Until I see common sense from them in the playoffs, I'll have to think this way.  Although I do have faith this year is different lol. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

I said at least 1 baserunner.  And id rather go down with my ace than a bullpen arm that isnt at a prime Andrew Miller level.

Of course you would. But that's because you don't know how to deploy bullpen arms. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

We can't completely discount the possibility that Chapman at Yankees stadium in the postseason doesn't revert to some strange mid version of his past self.

...and smile to himself while he gives up a late inning home run. Well within reason. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Omar said:

Of course you would. But that's because you don't know how to deploy bullpen arms. 

Seems to know how to do it better than the Yankees manager did.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Omar said:

Of course you would. But that's because you don't know how to deploy bullpen arms. 

And you do? Trying to predict the future based on past numbers while ignoring what youre seeing in real time is why a front office would pull Berrios after 3 innings.  Makes sense that youd probably think thats a smart idea lol. 

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