Blue Jays (Francis) vs Orioles (Sugano): 4/12/25, 4:05pm

[jaysblue]

What your Friday night is like without the Blue Jays playing. 

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12 hours ago, Spanky99 said:

I don't follow this conversation?

 

I'm guessing this is complaining that the high performance department should employ a team of meteorologists to avoid Vlad receiving consecutive days off.

[Gen.Disarray]

Since Vladdy hasn't really hit his stride yet anyway, maybe an extra day off would do him some good, idk

[Jays24]

Just move Vladdy back to the 3 spot that he seems to love and rotate guys into the 2 spot until one works the best.  Personally, I think one doesn't exist on this roster but we don't need to go through that again lol. Gimenez probably gets first shot at it.  

SS Bo

2B Gimenez 

1B Vlad

DH Santandar

Rf Springer

CF Varsho

C Kirk

3B Clement

LF Roden

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28 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Just move Vladdy back to the 3 spot that he seems to love and rotate guys into the 2 spot until one works the best.  Personally, I think one doesn't exist on this roster but we don't need to go through that again lol. Gimenez probably gets first shot at it.  

SS Bo

2B Gimenez 

1B Vlad

DH Santandar

Rf Springer

CF Varsho

C Kirk

3B Clement

LF Roden

Gimenez has cooled off on the road trip and has produced a 38 wRC+ in the month of April. I don't think it would be productive to move him into the slot reserved for the team's best hitter until he at least shakes the current slump.

[Jays24]

16 minutes ago, max silver said:

Gimenez has cooled off on the road trip and has produced a 38 wRC+ in the month of April. I don't think it would be productive to move him into the slot reserved for the team's best hitter until he at least shakes the current slump.

Ya, this roster doesn't have many options considering all our lefties are mediocre hitters.  I was screaming for this team to prioritize hitting for a reason because it'll hold us back in the longrun.  All the pressure goes to the starting staff and we get to nitpick Schneider's bullpen decisions yet again.  

[Masterbather]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

Ya, this roster doesn't have many options considering all our lefties are mediocre hitters.  I was screaming for this team to prioritize hitting for a reason because it'll hold us back in the longrun.  All the pressure goes to the starting staff and we get to nitpick Schneider's bullpen decisions yet again.  

Yeah it's nice that we finally have some more left-handed hitters on the team, but none of them are particularly good. I think most of us are hopeful that Wagner could be that guy or maybe Roden, but that's just us hoping.

[glory]

6 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Yeah it's nice that we finally have some more left-handed hitters on the team, but none of them are particularly good. I think most of us are hopeful that Wagner could be that guy or maybe Roden, but that's just us hoping.

I think the team might have been better off with Barger over one of those 2. Barger has a skillset that the org does not like (high K's) but it's what the team actually needs more of (power, high exit velo). The Jays have a whole bunch of players who hit line drives and make contact, but it's not optimal if 90% of the lineup has that skillset. You need more diversity. That's why when they rested Vlad that day, you pretty much had to hope for a Tony HR, otherwise it was "pray for enough singles to get runs across". Varsho might be an average-ish hitter, but he's a much needed piece to this lineup just for the off chance he can pull one out of the park. 

[Masterbather]

17 minutes ago, glory said:

I think the team might have been better off with Barger over one of those 2. Barger has a skillset that the org does not like (high K's) but it's what the team actually needs more of (power, high exit velo). The Jays have a whole bunch of players who hit line drives and make contact, but it's not optimal if 90% of the lineup has that skillset. You need more diversity. That's why when they rested Vlad that day, you pretty much had to hope for a Tony HR, otherwise it was "pray for enough singles to get runs across". Varsho might be an average-ish hitter, but he's a much needed piece to this lineup just for the off chance he can pull one out of the park. 

Well yeah it would bring more balance to the lineup but that's not ideal either. Yeah it's nice to have guys who can run into one from time to time but the fact that they are otherwise terrible hitters also means a lot of killed rallies. It would be nice to actually have some guys who can hit for decent average and pop 20 home runs with a bunch of doubles along the way. But beggars can't be choosers I guess. 

[John_Havok]

3 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Ya, this roster doesn't have many options considering all our lefties are mediocre hitters.  I was screaming for this team to prioritize hitting for a reason because it'll hold us back in the longrun.  All the pressure goes to the starting staff and we get to nitpick Schneider's bullpen decisions yet again.  

Honest question, do you think you're literally the only person who can see that Jays are in need of power?

It's not as easy as snapping your fingers and just signing whomever they want. 

[Omar]

[Jonn]

Sugano is good hittin'

[Angrioter]

Nice start for the Jays 

[glory]

I like how Santander gets an ovation and a tip of the cap, while Sportsnet is busy showing a replay of Vlad running to 1B while this is going on. 

[Jonn]

Second base is free to take. Take it.

[Abomination]

IMO that's a stupid time to try to steal 2nd.

[Omar]

Wagner really battled that ab. Got Sugano up to 27 pitchers after the first.  

[glory]

1 hour ago, Masterbather said:

Well yeah it would bring more balance to the lineup but that's not ideal either. Yeah it's nice to have guys who can run into one from time to time but the fact that they are otherwise terrible hitters also means a lot of killed rallies. It would be nice to actually have some guys who can hit for decent average and pop 20 home runs with a bunch of doubles along the way. But beggars can't be choosers I guess. 

Yeah there's no perfect answer in house. You can at least dream a little bit on Barger's exit velocity, hard hit rate, barrel rate, etc. The upside on Wagner in particular seems very low with a medium sized floor due to lack of position, and Roden will depend on how much power he can eventually generate, but either way they are too similar in profile. Adding a bit more volatility (lower floor) but with power you can dream on a bit seems like a better solution for this lineup. Ultimately the chances of something better than a 2 WAR player in any of those scenarios is probably small. 

[Masterbather]

Keep it rolling

[Omar]

Bo owning Sugano

[BTS]

I will never understand how the Orioles thought that 13M on this shitballer was the response to losing Corbin Burnes 

[Angrioter]

The fat 500M guy is annoying 

[Omar]

1 minute ago, BTS said:

I will never understand how the Orioles thought that 13M on this shitballer was the response to losing Corbin Burnes 

The new owners are as stingy as the old ones.  Can't wait until they start dismantling this team by the end of the decade.  

[HomeRunHomer]

OMG a homer!!

[Omar]

Well no doubt about that one.  

[Gen.Disarray]

Eyyyyy Taters! Welcome back!

[glory]

Tony Taters, finally.

[Orgfiller]

Francis is cruising.

[HomeRunHomer]

How did Bowden Francis get this good?

[Masterbather]

Francis efficient through 3.