Jays sign Anthony Santander

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[jerb]

Jays introduce Santander live on sportsnet.ca:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/watch-live-blue-jays-introduce-newly-signed-outfielder-anthony-santander/

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17 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Because he just did lol. 

Okay, maybe he'll OBP .300 instead. Big deal. 

Egg on my face, I didn't realize his OBP was that low!  Apologies :)

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26 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

I'd rather have Santander than Teo all else being equal. I take him at his contract every time over Teo at his. 

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2 minutes ago, BTS said:

I'd rather have Santander than Teo all else being equal. I take him at his contract every time over Teo at his. 

Now that we have hindsight of seeing both contracts I agree with you.  They should put up similar power numbers - Teo has a bit more OBP, but Santander is cheaper and also a switch hitter who hits the same from both sides.  Fills a bigger need for our lineup.

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[Jays24]

A day later and I'm loving the signing even more, the contract was a friggin steal man. We just paid KK 10.5M last season and are paying Santandar 14M per season. 

I love to crap on Shatkins as much as anyone but I will fight you if you don't like this deal lol.  

[wilko]

6 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

[L54]

I don’t get the media hate on this signing 

I was on the don’t sign Anthony bus because I thought it would end up like 5/125 

But at 14M AAV how can you actually be critical of this? Like where are these guys criticizing the Dodgers paying Tanner Scott almost 20M/year ?

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52 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

This is just simply dumb criticism. Olney is saying that if Vlad isn't signed to a long term extension then the Santander deal somehow becomes regrettable regardless of how he actually performs on the field. If the team struggles and Santander is a potent middle of the order bat the team would have little difficulty in moving him to a different team, there just wouldn't likely be much if any prospect capital coming back in return. If Santander struggles on a bad team he's not paid an exorbitant amount by any means, and if the team is blown up in the meantime Rogers can simply absorb the cost with ease as there is very little long term money on the books past the next few seasons. There really isn't a lot of potential downside here as Santander is basically being paid DH money despite still likely being able to man an actual position for the next few seasons. 

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7 minutes ago, L54 said:

I don’t get the media hate on this signing 

I was on the don’t sign Anthony bus because I thought it would end up like 5/125 

But at 14M AAV how can you actually be critical of this? Like where are these guys criticizing the Dodgers paying Tanner Scott almost 20M/year ?

Yeah after all the "Jays are silver medalists" takes they already had a pre-canned "the Jays are panicking" take lined up and were going to use it no matter what. Even if Santander signed for HALF of what many in the media predicted.

[Bone R]

20 hours ago, Jays24 said:

I'm very confident that we'll sign one of Alonso/Bregman depending on whoever gives us the better deal. 

2B Bo

3B Bregman

1B Vlad

LF Santandar

RF Springer

CF Varsho

C Kirk

DH Whoever

SS Gimenez

This team can still win the Team Gold Glove while being MUCH better offensively.  We add a decent starter and I'm drinking the kool-aid to do damage next year.  

I'm not. Hearing Cubs are in on Alonso. And Red Sox and Tigers in on Bregman. 

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20 minutes ago, Bone R said:

I'm not. Hearing Cubs are in on Alonso. And Red Sox and Tigers in on Bregman. 

Alonso makes sense for the Cubs.

I don't know how much this will matter but keep in mind that those idiots exceeded the luxury tax threshold by a whopping $570k last year. That designates them as a CBT payor, and since they have yet to sign a QO free agent, they will have to forfeit their 2nd and 5th round picks as well as $1M in international money if they sign Alonso .

The Jays barely got under the CBT threshold so we aren't a CBT payor. And since we signed Santander already (giving up our 2nd and $500k in Intl Money), we would merely have to forfeit a 3rd rounder if we sign Alonso.

Maybe that gives us a leg up? Probably so if Alonso is looking for something short term. Hard to see the Cubs outbidding us for one year of Alonso when they also have to give up a 2nd, 5th and the intl money.

[Laika]

HUGE leg up I would say

Deploy the heavy deferrals!!!!

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27 minutes ago, Bone R said:

I'm not. Hearing Cubs are in on Alonso. And Red Sox and Tigers in on Bregman. 

As for the Red Sux and the Tigers,:

-the Red Sox are a normal team like us. They haven't signed a QO FA yet so they have to give up a 2nd and $500k in Intl Money.

-I can't tell if the Tigers are revenue sharing recipients or not. Those *******s doled out a gazillion dollars to Miguel Cabrera so I sure hope not but I think they are. If not they are in the same boat as the Sox, if they are a recipient they have to forfeit a 3rd rounder.

[Omar]

2 hours ago, jerb said:

Jays introduce Santander live on sportsnet.ca:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/watch-live-blue-jays-introduce-newly-signed-outfielder-anthony-santander/

Seems to have a good head on his shoulders.  Likeable guy. The Jays need some of his high energy and enthusiasm after a losing season.  Said he will play "wherever the skipper needs me."  Feeling pretty good about this signing.

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1 hour ago, Omar said:

Seems to have a good head on his shoulders.  Likeable guy. The Jays need some of his high energy and enthusiasm after a losing season.  Said he will play "wherever the skipper needs me."  Feeling pretty good about this signing.

agreed love the attitude

very different than "what do you mean i'm not a shortstop?" Bichette, and "they better pay me Juan Soto money" Guerrero

[L54]

What happens to forfeited international money? If the money isn’t redistributed it only hurts the players 

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I do feel now like the Vladdy extension probably gets done ........

[Chappy]

I think Vladdy signs the extension within the week. 

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18 minutes ago, L54 said:

What happens to forfeited international money? If the money isn’t redistributed it only hurts the players 

The signing period lasts until December 15th so there's plenty of time to spend it or trade it.

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1 hour ago, Chappy said:

I think Vladdy signs the extension within the week. 

Hoping for this 

[Chappy]

He has been saying the right things up until now and it’s so or don’t time so I think given what the front office has done and what they will offer, I think he will stay as long as they pay him like he would get paid in free agency.  The time for discount has passed and we are not exactly a franchise strapped for cash. 

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2 hours ago, Chappy said:

I think Vladdy signs the extension within the week. 

I think it will get done too but it will happen right before the stated deadline in February or whatever it is.

Like you said in your other post, the Jays obviously have the cash and he's the one star player who will seemingly take their money.

Both sides are going to posture back and forth but Vlad will budge a little and get 90% of what he wants. I'm just hoping he does the right thing and takes shitloads of deferrals. 

[Brownie19]

If the Jays figured out how to defer money, and want to, then we may extend Vlad and Bo!

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32 minutes ago, Terminator said:

I think it will get done too but it will happen right before the stated deadline in February or whatever it is.

Like you said in your other post, the Jays obviously have the cash and he's the one star player who will seemingly take their money.

Both sides are going to posture back and forth but Vlad will budge a little and get 90% of what he wants. I'm just hoping he does the right thing and takes shitloads of deferrals. 

If he gets deferrals to make the luxury hit closer to 25 mil per year i’d be extremely happy. Even though I dont think signing him long-term is the right move.

[Jimcanuck]

57 minutes ago, Chappy said:

He has been saying the right things up until now and it’s so or don’t time so I think given what the front office has done and what they will offer, I think he will stay as long as they pay him like he would get paid in free agency.  The time for discount has passed and we are not exactly a franchise strapped for cash. 

I don't think the Jays need to offer up what he *might* get paid in free agency.  Vlad sees what Santander signed for after weeks of negotiations, and Bregman still without a Contract.  I expect Vlad does not want to go through the FA wringer.  Unless he wants to leave the Jays, which is certainly possible, he will sign a somewhat competitive offer from the Jays.  10/360 with deferrals and opt outs?

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23 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

If the Jays figured out how to defer money, and want to, then we may extend Vlad and Bo!

Both of these guys came from money and should have 0 issues with deferred money as long as it meets their expected dollar amounts.  Let's hope they get it done.