GDT: National League All-Stars @ American League All-stars (8:00pm et)

[Stangstag]

Also seeing Kirby Yates pitch an inning and K 2 in the game hurts.... f*** that dude.

 

If he had pitched like even 2 games for us in 2021 we probably make the playoffs.

[Brownie19]

Also seeing Kirby Yates pitch an inning and K 2 in the game hurts.... f*** that dude.

 

If he had pitched like even 2 games for us in 2021 we probably make the playoffs.

 

That's a true story. f*** that guy.

[Joltin Joe]

I always think back to the starting rotations of the 80's when hitting 90 was considered something and 95 was blazing. But at the same time, we had 4 starters going well over 200 IP at a time. That won't happen with the 100 mph fastballs.

 

Why we never see complete games now also. I would guess.

 

Batters still hit same. Must have evolved with the speed

[G-Snarls]

Why we never see complete games now also. I would guess.

 

Batters still hit same. Must have evolved with the speed

 

1. Most starters now just see 5-6 IP as acceptable. They're not conditioned to pace themselves to go 7+. They chase velocity and strikeouts.

 

2. Most bullpens have some beasts that managers want in for the 8th/9th innings anyway if the game is close at all.

 

It's fine. Just different.

[John_Havok]

1. Most starters now just see 5-6 IP as acceptable. They're not conditioned to pace themselves to go 7+. They chase velocity and strikeouts.

 

2. Most bullpens have some beasts that managers want in for the 8th/9th innings anyway if the game is close at all.

 

It's fine. Just different.

 

And should probably be mentioned that it's not the pitchers who made the decision to not get conditioned to go longer

 

Pitchers, no doubt, want to throw more innings. It's just come down to hitters being so much better that overall they can't just pitch to contact and get through innings efficiently and/or regularly with their 90-92 sinkers anymore.

 

Miss bats, or you're fighting an uphill battle

[Spanky99]

And should probably be mentioned that it's not the pitchers who made the decision to not get conditioned to go longer

 

Pitchers, no doubt, want to throw more innings. It's just come down to hitters being so much better that overall they can't just pitch to contact and get through innings efficiently and/or regularly with their 90-92 sinkers anymore.

 

Miss bats, or you're fighting an uphill battle

 

The run environment suggests the other way around. The orgs approach to go max effort is winning, that's not to say todays players are far better no doubt.

[Joltin Joe]

1. Most starters now just see 5-6 IP as acceptable. They're not conditioned to pace themselves to go 7+. They chase velocity and strikeouts.

 

2. Most bullpens have some beasts that managers want in for the 8th/9th innings anyway if the game is close at all.

 

It's fine. Just different.

Jays forgot about bullpen part this year