Mayza DFA

[Carlos Danger]

They did it.

 

 

Jose Cuas RP called up from AAA. He is the guy they claimed from the Cubs last week. He is a righty.

[Carlos Danger]

Too bad really. Seems like a good dude. Also, a lefty RP if performing well with only a pro rated part of a $3 mil contract left would maybe fetch something interesting in A ball etc at the deadline.

[Omar]

Guess he left them no choice. But being not right since game one, they sure took their time. Bullpen decimated right now. Swanson crapping the bed in AAA doesn't help. What a shitshow in terms of succession planning for the pen.

[Jimcanuck]

Guess he left them no choice. But being not right since game one, they sure took their time. Bullpen decimated right now. Swanson crapping the bed in AAA doesn't help. What a shitshow in terms of succession planning for the pen.

 

Ah I don't know. This is one of those seasons where everything that could go wrong did. Usually there is a balance of surprise performances / breakouts and disappointments. This season is way over to one side of the balance.

 

This is also why teams can be near bottom one year and playoffs the next.

 

Yes I am saying luck and probability plays a big part.

[Laika]

Nobody thought the pen was an issue before the season. Nobody thought pen depth was a weakness.

 

That's just baseball.

[Omar]

Ah I don't know. This is one of those seasons where everything that could go wrong did. Usually there is a balance of surprise performances / breakouts and disappointments. This season is way over to one side of the balance.

 

This is also why teams can be near bottom one year and playoffs the next.

 

Yes I am saying luck and probability plays a big part.

 

Yeah, sure there is luck and probability (in everything). But things don't happen overnight, hence my comment about succession planning. Poor John Shneider.

[Pendleton]

Nobody thought the pen was an issue before the season. Nobody thought pen depth was a weakness.

 

That's just baseball.

 

Relievers are weird

[Jonn]

Relievers are weird

 

Recipe for bullpens is pretty simple. If you miss bats you have success.

[Laika]

Recipe for bullpens is pretty simple. If you miss bats you have success.

 

Yeah velo matters, whiffs matter

 

Can definitely say (sort of in hindsight) they the Jays were deploying a risky pen since several key relievers did not have velo. Mayza, Swanson, Richards

[BigCecil]

One of our few home grown arm pen success stories wil join the ranks of Thornton, Saucedo trying to stick with another team. I wish him well. His V and stuff just never looked right all season.

[Stangstag]

Ah I don't know. This is one of those seasons where everything that could go wrong did. Usually there is a balance of surprise performances / breakouts and disappointments. This season is way over to one side of the balance.

 

This is also why teams can be near bottom one year and playoffs the next.

 

Yes I am saying luck and probability plays a big part.

 

Pretty f***ing annoying that we always seem to have “bad luck”

 

Can’t we just have the Yankees/Redsox luck for 1 f***ing season

[BTS]

So much attrition on the roster this year:

 

 

Mayza - DFA'd

Swanson - optioned to AAA

Cabrera - should be optioned to AAA

 

Berrios - stuff is completely gone, migth not even be tradeable anymore

Gausman - stuff has deteriorated, and he's been hurt. No longer an ace

Manoah - died

 

Biggio - DFA'd

Vogelbach - DFA'd

Kirk - hits and runs like Jose Molina

Kiermaier - replacement level

Bichette - almost replacement level and feels like he's on his way out

Springer - almost replacement level

 

Like, IKF is leading this team in fWAR. It's so bad.

[Jays24]

Thank you to the Jays management for using him in several high leverage spots when it was obvious to the whole world he wasn't right this year. Losing all those games because you thought you had another version of Mayza is one of the reasons why fans have lost faith in this management group. I.e. Vogelbach went from hitting cleanup to getting DFA'd in a day...

[BigCecil]

Pretty f***ing annoying that we always seem to have “bad luck”

 

Can’t we just have the Yankees/Redsox luck for 1 f***ing season

 

I think BOS this year so far is kind of what we would like to be next year. O'Neil for 6M is working out. Duran is worth over 3 WAR and a bit of found money. I still they they are defying gravity.

 

Yanks are just better than us with ungodly middle of the order ISO which offsets terrible offensive years from the likes of Torres, Cabrera and Rizzo. They have lost Cole and DJM for half the season but their depth is better. 2nd in HRs and runs in MLB. They made their own luck getting Soto etc. You can say the same about the O's. They have had some key IL stints but getting a guy like Burnes didn't hurt.

[max silver]

Thank you to the Jays management for using him in several high leverage spots when it was obvious to the whole world he wasn't right this year. Losing all those games because you thought you had another version of Mayza is one of the reasons why fans have lost faith in this management group. I.e. Vogelbach went from hitting cleanup to getting DFA'd in a day...

 

The team really didn't have anyone better which is a big part of the issue. The choice has largely between giving previously effective relievers an extended look at the major league level vs getting rid of them and cycling through a bunch of waiver wire pickups given the lack of home grown relief prospects.

[wilko]

A couple months too late.

[G-Snarls]

A couple months too late.

 

He cost so many leads and put so many games out of reach