Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[G-Snarls]

Volpe projects as a 3-win player next year, for league min. I don't think that would be a reasonable ask for 1-year of Soto at 30M or whatever.

 

Soto is projected to get 33M in arb

 

Would that be a record?

 

It's gotten to the point that lower budget teams can't really afford to keep "early superstar" players though all their initial years of control.

[Spanky99]

Soto is projected to get 33M in arb

 

Would that be a record?

 

It's gotten to the point that lower budget teams can't really afford to keep "early superstar" players though all their initial years of control.

 

f*** lower budget teams, to be frank about it, f*** em' to hell, sell the franchise to someone who gives a s***.

[Spanky99]

After Shapiro criticized AA for trading away all these prospects he's just going to turn around and do the same thing for 1 year of Soto? I do find that hard to believe..

 

Maybe Manoah for Soto straight up would work for the Jays if they think he's damaged goods/the relationship is beyond repair but if you're having to trade Monah plus 2 or 3 other prospects I just cant see it... There is some real question marks about this roster after 2025 and if you deplete the farm system and trade for Soto its going to be really difficult not to have to go through a rebuild.

 

Flags Fly Forever... and the ask at the moment is ludicrous, what L54 posted would be close, I'd bet. Add Zulu and bada bing!

[gruber92]

f*** Soto, just throw money at him next off season when he's a free agent.

 

This is what happens when your pos GM gets desperate to save his ass. Deplete the farm for a one year shot is f***ing stupid. Go get Ohtani and f*** Soto.

[gruber92]

Flags Fly Forever... and the ask at the moment is ludicrous, what L54 posted would be close, I'd bet. Add Zulu and bada bing!

 

f*** that.. Build sustainable winning and hope you win that way. At least this way the fans can build a relationship with the players which would make winning a WS and the road leading to it more passionate. Remember how good it felt being a fan in the 80s leading up to the back to back WS titles? It doesn't get any better than that.

[Spanky99]

f*** that.. Build sustainable winning and hope you win that way. At least this way the fans can build a relationship with the players which would make winning a WS and the road leading to it more passionate. Remember how good it felt being a fan in the 80s leading up to the back to back WS titles? It doesn't get any better than that.

 

Yes, I remember. Do you remember Gillicks trades and league payrolls?

[Spanky99]

f*** Soto, just throw money at him next off season when he's a free agent.

 

This is what happens when your pos GM gets desperate to save his ass. Deplete the farm for a one year shot is f***ing stupid. Go get Ohtani and f*** Soto.

 

Uhmm... they're trying if you haven't noticed, Kelly.

[L54]

There is no elite talent aside from Ricky T coming to produce a “sustainable” winner in my view. Are you gonna build a team around Orelvis Martinez and Addison Barger?

 

I don’t view these prospects that highly so I don’t mind cashing in

[Ehjays]

 

Another great thread from Black

[Laika]

"After droves of secrecy and anonymous reporting about secret meetings between Shohei Ohtani and various suitors, Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts refreshingly came right out and told reporters that his club recently hosted Ohtani for a visit at Dodgers Stadium (link via Jack Harris of the L.A. Times). Roberts added that Ohtani is “clearly our top priority.” Asked why he was so direct when other clubs have gone to great measures to conceal their efforts to negotiate with Ohtani, Roberts replied (via MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince): “I don’t feel like lying is something I do. I was asked a question. … It’s going to come out at some point.”

 

Imagine if this insulted Ohtani so he stopped talking to the Dodgers

[deanmike]

I really hope Ohtani stays true on holding leaks against teams come decision time !! Nice one Davey !!

[Marew]

That is guaranteed reason why he signed with us and not dodgers. Dave roberts was always a kook. Probably even left money on the table to not have to deal with that guy. Bragging about hosting him Jesus Christ.

[jaysthebest]

I guess Ohtani will be signed with the Dodgers by tomorrow. Roberts is very confident that Ohtani will play for them.

[Brownie19]

f*** that.. Build sustainable winning and hope you win that way. At least this way the fans can build a relationship with the players which would make winning a WS and the road leading to it more passionate. Remember how good it felt being a fan in the 80s leading up to the back to back WS titles? It doesn't get any better than that.

 

Isn't a >.500 record for 4 straight years and a playoff birth in 3 of the last 4 years (while missing a clean 4 for 4 by 1 game) a sustainable winner? I mean the Jays haven't been >.500 for 4 straight years since that run from '83 to '93. But yeah, that POS GM who hasn't even acquired a guy like Soto should be s*** on for potentially trading for him?

Edited December 5, 2023 by Brownie19

[MikeM3]

Roberts talking like they already signed him.

[deanmike]

 

Admittedly not sure how legit this account is.

[Jays24]

Yup... Ohtani Kawhi'd us

[Laika]

not legit at all

[jaysthebest]

Hope the Jays could land Ohtani, but it seems to be the Dodgers are very likely at this point.

 

I'm okay with Soto for the plan B.

[Dick_Pole]

That dude looks like the Stocktwits poster of baseball Twitter*.

 

*For those who are not familiar with Stocktwits, it's a site where a bunch of dipshits tag a million stocks with their bullish or bearish calls. Then 6 months later make a montage of all their "correct" (aka cherry-picked guesses that went their way) calls to make them seem like they have a legit track record.

[Spanky99]

"After droves of secrecy and anonymous reporting about secret meetings between Shohei Ohtani and various suitors, Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts refreshingly came right out and told reporters that his club recently hosted Ohtani for a visit at Dodgers Stadium (link via Jack Harris of the L.A. Times). Roberts added that Ohtani is “clearly our top priority.” Asked why he was so direct when other clubs have gone to great measures to conceal their efforts to negotiate with Ohtani, Roberts replied (via MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince): “I don’t feel like lying is something I do. I was asked a question. … It’s going to come out at some point.”

 

Imagine if this insulted Ohtani so he stopped talking to the Dodgers

 

lmao

[RobinThicc]

Up the offer one more time Ross

[Krylian]

As cynical as I am that Ohtani actually signs here, man, this had been an exciting last several days.

 

I'm really resisting letting myself believe this could happen. I still have scars from the Darvish fiasco. But man, this is exciting.

[Jays24]

As cynical as I am that Ohtani actually signs here, man, this had been an exciting last several days.

 

I'm really resisting letting myself believe this could happen. I still have scars from the Darvish fiasco. But man, this is exciting.

 

Ya I'm in the same boat. Just waiting for him to sign with the Dodgers and then say "wow, what a horrible contract... rather use the money elsewhere" lol

[Frenchsoup]

Atkins going to speak to the media, here's a Jay's stream

 

[Terminator]

"After droves of secrecy and anonymous reporting about secret meetings between Shohei Ohtani and various suitors, Dodgers skipper Dave Roberts refreshingly came right out and told reporters that his club recently hosted Ohtani for a visit at Dodgers Stadium (link via Jack Harris of the L.A. Times). Roberts added that Ohtani is “clearly our top priority.” Asked why he was so direct when other clubs have gone to great measures to conceal their efforts to negotiate with Ohtani, Roberts replied (via MLB.com’s Anthony Castrovince): “I don’t feel like lying is something I do. I was asked a question. … It’s going to come out at some point.”

 

Imagine if this insulted Ohtani so he stopped talking to the Dodgers

 

Dodgers are OUT

[glory]

Roberts either knows the Dodgers are getting him or knows they are not. Or neither. Dammit Shohei just make your damn choice so we can all move on.

[RobinThicc]

"Roberts spoke freely and relaxed for 20 minutes, but his face became serious as he spent several moments reading a text message on his phone after his session. He immediately huddled with Dodgers public relations officials"

 

From Nightengale

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/12/05/shohei-ohtani-dodgers-free-agent-cubs-rumors/71815659007/

 

Im assuming Nightengale physically saw this LOL

[Terminator]

 

Ok so let's do a little process of elimination here.

 

Cubs are OUT.

Roberts opened his fat mouth, so the Dodgers are OUT.

Ohtani went and saw that left field wall in San Fran and they are OUT.

He wants to play for a winner so the Angels are OUT.

 

Simple process of elimination leaves only the Jays folks.

[Terminator]

"roberts spoke freely and relaxed for 20 minutes, but his face became serious as he spent several moments reading a text message on his phone after his session. He immediately huddled with dodgers public relations officials"

 

from nightengale

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/12/05/shohei-ohtani-dodgers-free-agent-cubs-rumors/71815659007/

 

im assuming nightengale physically saw this lol

 

lol