General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[Sorrow]

He’s been fairly accurate with his information. My source of information is no longer working with the Jays, he took a promotion to move to a NL team.

[Spanky99]

He’s been fairly accurate with his information. My source of information is no longer working with the Jays, he took a promotion to move to a NL team.

 

Nice for your buddy, that guy seems to have the same source as Hurl, now it seems as though he's(Kingsarcasm) throwing s*** at a fan to be honest.

[G-Snarls]

So a DH and we're done

 

Ok who will it be

[G-Snarls]

I have to admit I'm really not very excited for this season

[Terminator]

This KingSarcasm stuff doesn't really mean anything other than the fact that nothing is imminent.

 

I'm sure Atkins has already canvassed the trade market and is waiting for prices to drop just like he is for free agent bats.

 

MLB's slow offseason is frustrating for fans but Atkins can't let that dictate the timing of his moves.

[Marew]

I’m happy with 95 wins and the division I guess. 100 wins would have been nice.

[wilko]

So a DH and we're done

 

Ok who will it be

 

Someone from here:

 

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/outfield/available/

[deanmike]

Nice for your buddy, that guy seems to have the same source as Hurl, now it seems as though he's(Kingsarcasm) throwing s*** at a fan to be honest.

 

 

Nope, he claims this info is coming from his source. Again he hasn't missed yet.

[Spanky99]

This KingSarcasm stuff doesn't really mean anything other than the fact that nothing is imminent.

 

I'm sure Atkins has already canvassed the trade market and is waiting for prices to drop just like he is for free agent bats.

 

MLB's slow offseason is frustrating for fans but Atkins can't let that dictate the timing of his moves.

 

100%

[deanmike]

Would it really surprise anyone if KingSarcasm hits again though?

 

If the Jays are really only making 1 more add to the 26-man roster at DH/OF, the RHP/LHP splits would look like this (I will assume Joc to make it harder because Soler/Hoskins/JDM are everyday bats):

 

Vs RHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Horwitz

2B Schneider/Biggio

3B Biggio/IKF

SS Bo

LF Varsho/Joc

CF Kiermaier/Varsho

RF Springer/Biggio

DH Joc/Vlad/Springer

 

Vs LHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Clement

2B Espinal/Clement

3B IKF/Espinal

SS Bo

LF Schneider

CF Varsho

RF Springer

DH Kirk/Jansen/Vlad

 

The PAs are pretty much covered if they only add 1 more bat at DH/OF. Whether they are properly covered is another discussion to be had.

[wamco]

Atkins did say prob 1-2 more players and a DH is an obvious hole. Not really groundbreaking stuff

[Jays24]

Would it really surprise anyone if KingSarcasm hits again though?

 

If the Jays are really only making 1 more add to the 26-man roster at DH/OF, the RHP/LHP splits would look like this (I will assume Joc to make it harder because Soler/Hoskins/JDM are everyday bats):

 

Vs RHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Horwitz

2B Schneider/Biggio

3B Biggio/IKF

SS Bo

LF Varsho/Joc

CF Kiermaier/Varsho

RF Springer/Biggio

DH Joc/Vlad/Springer

 

Vs LHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Clement

2B Espinal/Clement

3B IKF/Espinal

SS Bo

LF Schneider

CF Varsho

RF Springer

DH Kirk/Jansen/Vlad

 

The PAs are pretty much covered if they only add 1 more bat at DH/OF. Whether they are properly covered is another discussion to be had.

 

That team is not better than the team that finished last season.

- Worse in the bullpen after losing Hicks

- Worse hitting wise by replacing Chapman with INF, belt and Joc would be a wash.

- Slightly worse defensively with Chapman being replaced by INF

- Gotta hope the Starting Pitching stays healthy and performs as they did last year.

[Laika]

Atkins did say prob 1-2 more players and a DH is an obvious hole. Not really groundbreaking stuff

 

Lol right?

[deanmike]

I think most people including me assumed 2 more adds to the 26-man roster when Atkins said "closer to 1 than 3." According to KingSarcasm's source it's looking like it'll just be 1.

 

Guys like Horwitz/Clement/Espinal were all mostly seen as non 26-man roster players for 2024. Now it's looking like Espinal is a lock being part of the 3-way 3B platoon and the last roster spot goes to either Clement or Horwitz.

[Jonn]

Would it really surprise anyone if KingSarcasm hits again though?

 

If the Jays are really only making 1 more add to the 26-man roster at DH/OF, the RHP/LHP splits would look like this (I will assume Joc to make it harder because Soler/Hoskins/JDM are everyday bats):

 

Vs RHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Horwitz

2B Schneider/Biggio

3B Biggio/IKF

SS Bo

LF Varsho/Joc

CF Kiermaier/Varsho

RF Springer/Biggio

DH Joc/Vlad/Springer

 

Vs LHP

C Jansen/Kirk

1B Vlad/Clement

2B Espinal/Clement

3B IKF/Espinal

SS Bo

LF Schneider

CF Varsho

RF Springer

DH Kirk/Jansen/Vlad

 

The PAs are pretty much covered if they only add 1 more bat at DH/OF. Whether they are properly covered is another discussion to be had.

 

That’s a really s***** Lineup. I hope the pitching staff stays incredibly healthy again if that’s the Lineup they are trotting out.

[Jays24]

That’s a really s***** Lineup. I hope the pitching staff stays incredibly healthy again if that’s the Lineup they are trotting out.

 

Watching last year's Jays team was like pulling teeth... we're gonna run it back and become one of the most unwatchable teams again. Siggghh

[Laika]

Nah.

 

Vlad 40 HR

Bo .300/30/115

Springer turns back the clock

Schneider 30 HR

IKF gold glove

Jansen stays healthy

Kirk mashes

Varsho goes 30/20

[Spanky99]

Nah.

 

Vlad 40 HR

Bo .300/30/115

Springer turns back the clock

Schneider 30 HR

IKF gold glove

Jansen stays healthy

Kirk mashes

Varsho goes 30/20

 

WS here we come, lol.

[Jonn]

Nah.

 

Vlad 40 HR

Bo .300/30/115

Springer turns back the clock

Schneider 30 HR

IKF gold glove

Jansen stays healthy

Kirk mashes

Varsho goes 30/20

 

Whatever you’re on. I want some of that s***. DM’s are open.

[deanmike]

Considering the Jays only have between 26-28M remaining to spend under the 2nd luxury tax threshold (depending on what happens with Vlad in arb), and Teo got 23/1 from the Dodgers, if the Jays give a similar 1 year deal to one of Hoskins/Soler/JDM/Joc, who else would they even be able to add for 3-5M? They'll probably just keep that as deadline wiggle room.

 

One of the everyday bats is probably preferable over Joc at this point so the Jays won't have to DH Kirk and Jansen as much against LHP starters and can rest them more.

[The Cats Ass]

Nah.

 

Vlad 40 HR

Bo .300/30/115

Springer turns back the clock

Schneider 30 HR

IKF gold glove

Jansen stays healthy

Kirk mashes

Varsho goes 30/20

 

Atkins waits out the market and gets a banging 3 year deal on Soler who then repeats his 2023 season and is a top 20 bat at for our DH.

[Laika]

Considering the Jays only have between 26-28M remaining to spend under the 2nd luxury tax threshold (depending on what happens with Vlad in arb), and Teo got 23/1 from the Dodgers, if the Jays give a similar 1 year deal to one of Hoskins/Soler/JDM/Joc, who else would they even be able to add for 3-5M? They'll probably just keep that as deadline wiggle room.

 

One of the everyday bats is probably preferable over Joc at this point so the Jays won't have to DH Kirk and Jansen as much against LHP starters and can rest them more.

 

But Joc should get like 12M

 

Soler is half the talent of Teoscar, he might be for something like 3/36M

[The Cats Ass]

Whatever you’re on. I want some of that s***. DM’s are open.

 

Thing is, all those are realistic. Chance of all happening the same year is extremely slim. But they’re all legit possible.

[deanmike]

But Joc should get like 12M

 

Soler is half the talent of Teoscar, he might be for something like 3/36M

 

Teoscar got 23/1 when he was projected to get something around 45/3

 

Soler probably gets something similar if not more than Teoscar on a 1 year deal. His contract projections are similar and fWAR projections are higher than Teoscar

 

JDM contract projections vary wildly ranging from 12/1 to 40/2 so I wouldn't be surprised to seem him get a Teoscar-type 1 year deal either

 

Joc is projected at 24/2, a 1 year Teoscar-type deal is probably less than 23M for him but who knows how much less. Giants gave him 19.6M last year

 

Hoskins I've seen his contract projections range from 14/1 to 36/2, so similarly to JDM I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a Teoscar type 1 year deal but it probably doesn't matter when it comes to him because Jays don't seem to be interested anyway

 

Pretty much depends what the FA demand is for these guys

[Spanky99]

Teoscar got 23/1 when he was projected to get something around 45/3

 

Soler probably gets something similar if not more than Teoscar on a 1 year deal. His contract projections are similar and fWAR projections are higher than Teoscar

 

JDM contract projections vary wildly ranging from 12/1 to 40/2 so I wouldn't be surprised to seem him get a Teoscar-type 1 year deal either

 

Joc is projected at 24/2, a 1 year Teoscar-type deal is probably less than 23M for him but who knows how much less. Giants gave him 19.6M last year

 

Hoskins I've seen his contract projections range from 14/1 to 36/2, so similarly to JDM I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a Teoscar type 1 year deal but it probably doesn't matter when it comes to him because Jays don't seem to be interested anyway

 

Pretty much depends what the FA demand is for these guys

 

This doesn't make sense, the pillow contract dollars would be far more, than the 2 years?

[Frenchsoup]

I'm thinking Soler gets around 2/33

[Laika]

Teoscar got 23/1 when he was projected to get something around 45/3

 

Soler probably gets something similar if not more than Teoscar on a 1 year deal. His contract projections are similar and fWAR projections are higher than Teoscar

 

JDM contract projections vary wildly ranging from 12/1 to 40/2 so I wouldn't be surprised to seem him get a Teoscar-type 1 year deal either

 

Joc is projected at 24/2, a 1 year Teoscar-type deal is probably less than 23M for him but who knows how much less. Giants gave him 19.6M last year

 

Hoskins I've seen his contract projections range from 14/1 to 36/2, so similarly to JDM I wouldn't be surprised to see him get a Teoscar type 1 year deal but it probably doesn't matter when it comes to him because Jays don't seem to be interested anyway

 

Pretty much depends what the FA demand is for these guys

 

lol

 

If there was tons of free agent demand for these guys they wouldn't all be free agents still. And Teoscar would not have settled for a 1 year pillow.

 

These guys are sweating buckets. Brandon Belt is begging his agent to even find him a job. Soler is already whining to the media because the Marlins don't want him. No demand.

[Marew]

Why don’t we just get Donaldson on 1/1m and hope he can relive his mvp season?

[Jonn]

Why don’t we just get Donaldson on 1/1m and hope he can relive his mvp season?

 

Because hes so far past his prime its delusional to think he would even make a roster. He won the MVP in 2015. Its 2024.

[Jonn]

Thing is, all those are realistic. Chance of all happening the same year is extremely slim. But they’re all legit possible.

 

I will buy the Vlad and Bo predictions. Not so much the rest. It would be lovely if Jansen stayed healthy though.