2023 Trade Deadline

[Jays24]

I want Hader if nothing else to prevent the Orioles from getting him. But he is exactly what we need in the back end of the Bullpen. Can remove Romano out of the Closer role.

 

I won't hold my breath on this front office making a huge bullpen addition. If my memory is right, Cleveland Added Andrew Miller after they left the organization and we all know how crucial he was for then.

[L54]

I want Hader if nothing else to prevent the Orioles from getting him. But he is exactly what we need in the back end of the Bullpen. Can remove Romano out of the Closer role.

 

You will get Michael Lorenzen and you will be happy

[Jonn]

You will get Michael Lorenzen and you will be happy

 

He's a starter tho...

[L54]

He's a starter tho...

 

Not for long…

[Jonn]

I won't hold my breath on this front office making a huge bullpen addition. If my memory is right, Cleveland Added Andrew Miller after they left the organization and we all know how crucial he was for then.

 

The Jays have been missing that weapon out of the bullpen for years. Had they had it they don’t lose that game in the Seattle series. Romano is decent but he’s not that guy. Someone like Josh Hader has that dog in em. When push comes to shove your gonna strikeout and not advance base runners off him.

[Terminator]

The Jays have been missing that weapon out of the bullpen for years. Had they had it they don’t lose that game in the Seattle series. Romano is decent but he’s not that guy. Someone like Josh Hader has that dog in em. When push comes to shove your gonna strikeout and not advance base runners off him.

 

Hader had an ERA over 7 after the Padres acquired him at trade deadline last year. Where was that "dog in em" then?

[Jonn]

Hader had an ERA over 7 after the Padres acquired him at trade deadline last year. Where was that "dog in em" then?

 

Do I need to link you to the small sample size song.

[Terminator]

Do I need to remind you of reliever volatility and how even the best of them can suck in those small sample sizes? He'd be a great target but he's a rental and in a seller's market I think he'll command too much prospect capital.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Do I need to remind you of reliever volatility and how even the best of them can suck in those small sample sizes? He'd be a great target but he's a rental and in a seller's market I think he'll command too much prospect capital.

 

That's why I'd rather go for Bednar if we want to double up on closers. At least he has some control left.

[Jonn]

Do I need to remind you of reliever volatility and how even the best of them can suck in those small sample sizes? He'd be a great target but he's a rental and in a seller's market I think he'll command too much prospect capital.

 

He’s been insane this Season. He would complete the bullpen along with Green. Its worth it. If you can get a shut down arm like that you get it

[Terminator]

He’s been insane this Season. He would complete the bullpen along with Green. Its worth it. If you can get a shut down arm like that you get it

 

If he's on and delivers in the ~20 regular seasons innings we give him and then delivers in the playoffs too it could be worth kicking the tires on.

 

So I see what you are saying but what would we give up for him? It would take at least one of our top 5 prospects to go with another guy in the Top 10.

 

I think we could all agree that we wouldn't trade Tiedemann for him but would we trade Barger and Sem Robberse for him? Or Orelvis Martinez and Kloff? Or Barriera and Schneider? At the minimum it probably takes a package like that right? And probably more.

[John_Havok]

If he's on and delivers in the ~20 regular seasons innings we give him and then delivers in the playoffs too it could be worth kicking the tires on.

 

So I see what you are saying but what would we give up for him? It would take at least one of our top 5 prospects to go with another guy in the Top 10.

 

I think we could all agree that we wouldn't trade Tiedemann for him but would we trade Barger and Sem Robberse for him? Or Orelvis Martinez and Kloff? Or Barriera and Schneider? At the minimum it probably takes a package like that right? And probably more.

 

Nah, would probably only want to give up arms for arms. Looking at the precedent you might see something like Kloffenstein and Cooke? Probably higher than that. Depends on how they feel about other guys, but don’t get hung up on a # ranking on a prospect list somewhere

[Jonn]

If he's on and delivers in the ~20 regular seasons innings we give him and then delivers in the playoffs too it could be worth kicking the tires on.

 

So I see what you are saying but what would we give up for him? It would take at least one of our top 5 prospects to go with another guy in the Top 10.

 

I think we could all agree that we wouldn't trade Tiedemann for him but would we trade Barger and Sem Robberse for him? Or Orelvis Martinez and Kloff? Or Barriera and Schneider? At the minimum it probably takes a package like that right? And probably more.

 

Well the Padres aren't getting Tiedemann or Barrierra.

 

Zulueta and Santos will probably be in play. One of the young position players in AAA. But won't be Martinez

[max silver]

I want Hader if nothing else to prevent the Orioles from getting him. But he is exactly what we need in the back end of the Bullpen. Can remove Romano out of the Closer role.

 

Umm have you not seen how poorly Romano has performed in non save situations? It might not be the best move in the world to move him out of a role where he has really excelled.

[Spanky__99]

If he's on and delivers in the ~20 regular seasons innings we give him and then delivers in the playoffs too it could be worth kicking the tires on.

 

So I see what you are saying but what would we give up for him? It would take at least one of our top 5 prospects to go with another guy in the Top 10.

 

I think we could all agree that we wouldn't trade Tiedemann for him but would we trade Barger and Sem Robberse for him? Or Orelvis Martinez and Kloff? Or Barriera and Schneider? At the minimum it probably takes a package like that right? And probably more.

 

It'll certainly be expensive.

[Rafters]

How much would Hicks cost.. maybe even take O’Neill off their hands as well

[Jonn]

Umm have you not seen how poorly Romano has performed in non save situations? It might not be the best move in the world to move him out of a role where he has really excelled.

 

I felt multi inning reliever Romano before he was the closer was the best version of Romano I have seen. He can still be the saved guy. But sometimes the game is decided in the 7th and 8th inning. And having Hader agianst the meat of the order is my kinda s***.

[Jays24]

I felt multi inning reliever Romano before he was the closer was the best version of Romano I have seen. He can still be the saved guy. But sometimes the game is decided in the 7th and 8th inning. And having Hader agianst the meat of the order is my kinda s***.

 

I agree... pretty much what Andrew Miller was for the Indians.

[Spanky__99]

I felt multi inning reliever Romano before he was the closer was the best version of Romano I have seen. He can still be the saved guy. But sometimes the game is decided in the 7th and 8th inning. And having Hader agianst the meat of the order is my kinda s***.

 

That's likely what they'd do if acquired.

[max silver]

I think Chad Green is likely to be the late inning shutdown guy once he is ready to be activated.

[Jonn]

I think Chad Green is likely to be the late inning shutdown guy once he is ready to be activated.

 

He very well could be. But the Jays could absolutely use another one as well. We just can't expect him to be the Yankees Chad Green right away.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Ok, now I want the Jays to snag Hader lol

Adding Hader and Green to an already top 5(ish) bullpen? Yes please.

 

And I still want old man Scherzer too

[jaysblue]

I think Chad Green is likely to be the late inning shutdown guy once he is ready to be activated.

 

Yeah he can be and I hope he is, but putting all your eggs in one basket hoping Green is that guy comes with risk. He's coming back from injury and we've seen arms sometimes take a while to settle in. Doesn't hurt adding another elite bullpen arm at the deadline.

[jaysblue]

Yeah Hader would fill the role like Miller did with Cleveland in 2016. That's what the Blue Jays need. Hader filled that role before when he was with the Brewers as well.

 

I would leave Romano where he is.

 

As for Bednar, love the control that comes with him but moving him out of his closers role I'm not a big fan of. We've seen guys traded and taken out of the closers role suck with their new clubs.

 

Either way, adding another elite pen arm should be the priority.

[Omar]

Yeah Hader would fill the role like Miller did with Cleveland in 2016. That's what the Blue Jays need. Hader filled that role before when he was with the Brewers as well.

 

I would leave Romano where he is.

 

Miller was used in a variety of situations multi innings even. You really want to use Hader like that? Moreover do you think Schneider has the in game decision making ability to deploy him like Tito was using Miller? Nah, if we get Hader he will be used like a scalpel: surgical and precise. Maybe Green can be the Everyman role.

[The Cats Ass]

How about Paul Sewald?

[Laika]

How about Paul Sewald?

 

Seattle won't sell

 

I think there are only 8 to 10 sellers this year.

 

8 non contenders then the Mets and Padres. Looks like the Mets are selling. Doubt the Padres give up

[BigCecil]

Seattle won't sell

 

I think there are only 8 to 10 sellers this year.

 

8 non contenders then the Mets and Padres. Looks like the Mets are selling. Doubt the Padres give up

 

SEA wont be selling agreed. They are quietly on a mini roll and 3 games over .500 6-4 in their last 10. They are having the same "if our underperformers come around we can make a run" discussion we Jays fan's are having. The difference is we sit 1 slim 1.5 games up for final WC.

[JaysAllMighty]

If it's a matter of losing very good prospects for rentals I'm not for it.

[Eat My Shatkins]

If there is one thing I trust the Jays FO to do, it's trade prospects.

 

Not a single one they've traded yet has managed to amount to anything valuable at the MLB level.