GDT: 2/3 Chicago White Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays 7:07 PM EST

[EdwinsParrot]

Nice win!

[Jonn]

Vladdy gonna win the gold glove for the next 10 years.

[Stangstag]

Vlad's defense is so f***ing good.

 

Can’t understand why the stats say he’s one of the worst defenders in the league

[Omar]

Jays WIN!!!

 

Rays LOSE!!!

 

Orioles LOSE!!!

 

Yankees LOSING!!!

 

Great day all around. Go Oilers!

 

Nice win!

 

A near perfect game. Letting Pearson get his feet wet and Bass a chance to turn things around is as good as it gets.

 

[Orgfiller]

Is Eloy considered a butcher? That should be an easy play for any RF

 

Big time

[Laika]

Can’t understand why the stats say he’s one of the worst defenders in the league

 

I don't know either but I don't place a lot of value on the range metrics, for first basemen.

 

Eye test says his range and ability to make high-level plays like unique throws are both good.

 

And he's sublime at picking it, which I don't think the metrics really capture.

[Grant77]

I don't know either but I don't place a lot of value on the range metrics, for first basemen.

 

Eye test says his range and ability to make high-level plays like unique throws are both good.

 

And he's sublime at picking it, which I don't think the metrics really capture.

 

He's so alike and athletic for a 1B. If Andres Galarraga hadn't claimed it, 'the big cat' would be an appropriate nickname.

[WryNGinger]

Amazing game from Berrios. Looked confident with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Him and Kikuchi pissed off and pushing s*** in right now. Awesome to see.

 

Nice reaction from Pearson after hitting a batter. Calmed down and trusted his stuff way more than he has in the past. Hopefully he takes a big breath and just comes out and pitches from now on.

 

Kiermaier has been a revelation. Love his hustle and zeal. What a huge add.

 

Hard to cheer for jack-bass but glad he got his job done. Now time for him to shut the f*** up and pitch.

[max silver]

Can’t understand why the stats say he’s one of the worst defenders in the league

 

DRS likes Vlad's defence more than OAA where he's credited with 2 DRS up to this point. Even Bo is credited with 2 DRS so far which is a nice development.

[max silver]

Amazing game from Berrios. Looked confident with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Him and Kikuchi pissed off and pushing s*** in right now. Awesome to see.

 

Nice reaction from Pearson after hitting a batter. Calmed down and trusted his stuff way more than he has in the past. Hopefully he takes a big breath and just comes out and pitches from now on.

 

Kiermaier has been a revelation. Love his hustle and zeal. What a huge add.

 

Hard to cheer for jack-bass but glad he got his job done. Now time for him to shut the f*** up and pitch.

 

This is about as good as I think Berrios has looked as a Blue Jay. The changeup is such a difference maker pitch for him so it's nice to see him using it more often.

[BigCecil]

Can’t understand why the stats say he’s one of the worst defenders in the league

 

Don’t the stats say Vlad and Chappy aren’t very good at D?

[G-Snarls]

Hard to cheer for jack-bass but glad he got his job done. Now time for him to shut the f*** up and pitch.

 

Sea bass

[L54]

What a great win!

[Jonn]

Defensive metrics have always been wildly inconsistent. Vlad is above average in every category of First Base. Chapman is making plays other Third Basemen don’t even get to. Even Varsho’s defensive numbers look weird thid year despite being loved in CF. Maybe a larger sample fixes things but the metrics have always been out of whack.

[Stangstag]

Don’t the stats say Vlad and Chappy aren’t very good at D?

 

Currently, yes. But by the end of season it always seems Vlad is near the bottom.

[Stangstag]

Defensive metrics have always been wildly inconsistent. Vlad is above average in every category of First Base. Chapman is making plays other Third Basemen don’t even get to. Even Varsho’s defensive numbers look weird thid year despite being loved in CF. Maybe a larger sample fixes things but the metrics have always been out of whack.

 

Im talking about 2021-2023 so like 300+ games. Vlad near the bottom. I don’t really agree with it.

[Grant77]

Im talking about 2021-2023 so like 300+ games. Vlad near the bottom. I don’t really agree with it.

 

Evidently, neither do the gold glove voters.

[Olerud363]

Defensive metrics have always been wildly inconsistent. Vlad is above average in every category of First Base. Chapman is making plays other Third Basemen donÂ’t even get to. Even VarshoÂ’s defensive numbers look weird thid year despite being loved in CF. Maybe a larger sample fixes things but the metrics have always been out of whack.

 

The other night Isiah Kiner-Falefa made a spectacular dive and the Yankees broadcaster were going on and on about how well he's adjusted to the outfield. Then I saw somewhere else the catch was actually 99% catch probability, looking back at it you could tell he got a bad jump, but hard to tell in the moment.

 

I mostly just look at the defense column on fangraphs and they always seem to make roughly make sense. With some exceptions the players that are regarded as good defensively score high, are somewhat consistent year to year, start to degrade as they get into their 30s.

 

I honestly don't know exactly how these systems work. It would be nice to see some video of the top plays the guys are either getting penalized or rewarded for. Get a better understanding of which plays Vlad not making.

[Olerud363]

Defensive metrics have always been wildly inconsistent. Vlad is above average in every category of First Base. Chapman is making plays other Third Basemen don’t even get to. Even Varsho’s defensive numbers look weird thid year despite being loved in CF. Maybe a larger sample fixes things but the metrics have always been out of whack.

 

Not sure that is true. Ozzie Smith, Devon White, Kiermaier, Prince Fielder didn't have a tonne of variation. So the system is consistent for the good and bad outliers.

 

Chapman is 30, maybe already lost a bit. I can recall off-hand a couple of plays he didn't make this year. One in the second game that led to Gausman un-earned runs, and one Monday, there's probably more. On the other hand he made some great throws yesterday so arm strength is still there. A few bad plays early in the season can probably skew things.

 

Maybe same with Varsho. Vlad defense has been pretty consistently rated bad. Maybe he just doesn't have great mobility, even for a first basemen, but looks great because he has elite hand eye coordination.

[Spanky99]

Defensive metrics aren't worth looking at this time of year, also they f***ing suxxxxxxx. Berrios threw his hardest pitch last night as a Blue Jay, SP getting it together, we like our team Barry!

[jaysblue]

Jays WIN!!!

 

Rays LOSE!!!

 

Orioles LOSE!!!

 

Yankees LOSING!!!

 

Great day all around. Go Oilers!

 

I bet the Rays on Money Line last night, so I'm 1-1 now since starting to bet them. Hope the trend continues! Taking one for my bank account!

[Grant77]

I bet the Rays on Money Line last night, so I'm 1-1 now since starting to bet them. Hope the trend continues! Taking one for my bank account!

 

If they lose again, maybe we can start passing around a hat for donations!

[John_Havok]

Solid night for the HP ump

 

[Pendleton]

[wilko]

 

Did they say how many Joey ate at the game?

[Pendleton]

Did they say how many Joey ate at the game?

 

Not sure, but it's clear that many were inspired by his presence.

[DigitalRock]

Another change up why? Such bizarre pitch selection

[Spanky99]

Another change up why? Such bizarre pitch selection

 

*waves*