Jays signing Chad Green.

[Brownie19]

and it's possible the team already has plans for the two spots or at least want them empty through Spring Training. Those NRI and Minor League deals like to know there is a spot if they shine in spring.

 

Also teams usually seem to know whether a player will get through waivers or not. I'm sure if it was as easy as not announcing the deal until they can put Ryu on the 60, they likely would.

 

Do you think when teams are talking to players about signing a minor league deal with an invite to camp - they make a promise like "we're planning to have 2 open spots on the 40 man roster going into camp"? Teams that promise to have more open spots become more attractive to those fringe minor league invite guys (like the ones Texas just signed on).

[John_Havok]

Do you think when teams are talking to players about signing a minor league deal with an invite to camp - they make a promise like "we're planning to have 2 open spots on the 40 man roster going into camp"? Teams that promise to have more open spots become more attractive to those fringe minor league invite guys (like the ones Texas just signed on).

 

Well most guys will have agents that aren't idiots, any agent would (or should) be up on who from every team is about to head to the 60 day DL as soon as spring training opens because yeah, that would absolutely influence a decision on where a guy might sign a minor league deal.

[Captain_Obvious]

Haven’t seen anyone post the contract deets yet, and boy its a doozie:

 

Under the incredibly creative contract, Green is guaranteed $2.25 million this year, after which the contract can extend in the following ways:

 

- First, the Blue Jays get a club option covering the 2024-26 seasons for $27 million over three years, with annual performance bonuses of up to $1 million based on games pitched;

 

- If the Blue Jays decline that option, Green gets a player option for the 2024 season worth $6.25 million with up to $2 million in bonuses based on games pitched;

 

- If Green declines that, the Blue Jays get a final $21-million, two-year club option covering 2024-25 with annual performance bonuses of up to $1 million based on games pitched.

 

Thanks. Only 34 individuals here discussed this prior to this post and this post is in no way redundant.

[Spanky99]

lol

[Brownie19]

nothing to see here folks - just the Capt'n doing his thing.

[Stangstag]

Thanks. Only 34 individuals here discussed this prior to this post and this post is in no way redundant.

 

My bad, somehow missed page 2/3 and hadn’t seen the breakdown until I saw it on reddit today

[Jimcanuck]

The Green contract is effectively a creative way to get around the restriction on performance bonuses. (Games pitched is not a performance based bonus)

[The_DH]

The Green contract is effectively a creative way to get around the restriction on performance bonuses. (Games pitched is not a performance based bonus)

 

i think it also only adds 2 million to the portfolio tax calculation.

[Jimcanuck]

i think it also only adds 2 million to the portfolio tax calculation.

 

I was referring to the multiple cascading options. Not really applicable since the options sequence happens after this season. Green isn't likely to pitch more than 25 innings, if at all.

[Jimcanuck]

What I am getting at is something like this:

 

Option 1 - team option for 2/20

If Option 1 declined, Option 2 - player option for 2/8

If Option 2 declined, Option 3 - team option for 2/17

If Option 3 declined, Option 4 - player option for 2/12

If Option 4 declined, Option 5 - team option for 2/14

 

Basically, it is unlikely the team and player part company, and very likely they land at a 2 year extension at roughly market value. Player has incentive to perform, team is able to better manage the financial risk.

[Spanky99]

What I am getting at is something like this:

 

Option 1 - team option for 2/20

If Option 1 declined, Option 2 - player option for 2/8

If Option 2 declined, Option 3 - team option for 2/17

If Option 3 declined, Option 4 - player option for 2/12

If Option 4 declined, Option 5 - team option for 2/14

 

Basically, it is unlikely the team and player part company, and very likely they land at a 2 year extension at roughly market value. Player has incentive to perform, team is able to better manage the financial risk.

 

lol... Jim for GM!

[Ray]

This is a fantastically structured deal for the Jays, especially given we're going to be keeping tabs on his recovery and rehab all season. The Jays will know exactly where he's at health-wise at all times, and if the stuff, spin, and velo are showing signs of returning.

 

Exercising 3-years/$27M for a reliever of Green's calibre is a no-brainer, if healthy. Particularly after the reliever market spiked up this offseason.