Countdown to ST (in Jays jersey numbers)

[John_Havok]

I cant find a Devon White with #19 which he wore for one season before switching to 25.

 

White was given #19 but knowing that McGriff was just traded and was highly respected in Toronto he opted to switch to #25 at some point during the season.

[Krylian]

I cant find a Devon White with #19 which he wore for one season before switching to 25.

 

White was given #19 but knowing that McGriff was just traded and was highly respected in Toronto he opted to switch to #25 at some point during the season.

 

Yup. I looked for that one too. No dice.

[wilko]

I cant find a Devon White with #19 which he wore for one season before switching to 25.

 

White was given #19 but knowing that McGriff was just traded and was highly respected in Toronto he opted to switch to #25 at some point during the season.

 

I found a few but I'm not posting them.

[Jonn]

Is Jose Bautista not on the Level of Excellence yet. I swear that’s long overdue if not. He had an insane run for us.

[Brownie19]

Is Jose Bautista not on the Level of Excellence yet. I swear that’s long overdue if not. He had an insane run for us.

 

I agree with this. He deserves to be up there. He was a f***ing beast.

[Krylian]

Is Jose Bautista not on the Level of Excellence yet. I swear that’s long overdue if not. He had an insane run for us.

 

What about HOFer Fred McGriff

[Jonn]

What about HOFer Fred McGriff

 

Honestly I’m down. Especially considering he plans to enter the hall as a Blue Jay. Edwin as well.

[Pendleton]

[Show Hey]

I cant find a Devon White with #19 which he wore for one season before switching to 25.

 

White was given #19 but knowing that McGriff was just traded and was highly respected in Toronto he opted to switch to #25 at some point during the season.

 

Don't want to ruin the continuity so I won't post the picture. But looks like you can buy the card for $3 if you want.

 

https://www.firstrow.ca/products/devon-white-1991-team-issue-blue-jays-fire-safety-30

[Spanky99]

[John_Havok]

[The_DH]

 

There was a pitcher. The definition of work horse.

[Jimcanuck]

Ya, I enjoyed watching Clancy work. He didn't have great stuff or anything, he just went out and battled.

[The_DH]

He was a workhorse, 35+ starts a season and 200+ innings. And 10-15 complete games. That doesn't happen anymore.

[Brownie19]

Ya, I enjoyed watching Clancy work. He didn't have great stuff or anything, he just went out and battled.

 

I always find it crazy when I look back and see decent pitchers who had almost a 1:1 K/BB ratio. Tom Glavine was another one that stood out like that for me.

[wilko]

[Brownie19]

He was a workhorse, 35+ starts a season and 200+ innings. And 10-15 complete games. That doesn't happen anymore.

 

For good reason. I understand why fans miss starters throwing 200+ innings, winning 20 games, etc - but the reason why baseball has moved away from this is so bloody obvious. It baffles me why there's such a large % of baseball fans who can't comprehend why and get angry about it (primarily based off ignorant views as to why it's happening).

[The_DH]

Yes it was a different era when pitchers had to pace themselves a lot more. Jack Morris was one of the best at doing that.

[Brownie19]

Yes it was a different era when pitchers had to pace themselves a lot more. Jack Morris was one of the best at doing that.

 

It sure was. I was curious, so I just looked up the 1982 numbers. The Jays only used 13 pitchers that year and 5 of them posted negative WAR, while Eichhorn had almost a 1:1 K/BB ratio and a 5.45 ERA.

 

They had 2 bullpen arms that weren't complete dog s***. Roy Lee Jackson and Dale Murphy - both who got ridden into the ground (97 and 111 innings respectfully).

[The_DH]

One of the biggest differences is the Tommy John surgery and training in general. Back in 1982, a torn rotator was the end of a career so pitchers had to be more careful. Now they go nuts.

[Brownie19]

One of the biggest differences is the Tommy John surgery and training in general. Back in 1982, a torn rotator was the end of a career so pitchers had to be more careful. Now they go nuts.

 

A torn rotator is still typically career ending. You just don't see that injury a lot anymore because we have a much better understanding of proper mechanics (or at least mechanics that puts more pressure on the elbow - resulting in more velo and more TJS's).

[The_DH]

i remember watching Tommy John pitch. It was sad.

[Krylian]

i remember watching Tommy John pitch. It was sad.

 

Before or after he had Tommy John?

[The_DH]

Before or after he had Tommy John?

 

It was after. His arm action seemed so unnatural.

[Pendleton]

[Spanky99]

 

Can he stick?

[Spanky99]

 

 

 

So f***ing out!

[connorp]

 

 

 

So f***ing out!

 

Who is the Bluejay SS/2b, without cheating. It looks like Carter in RF

[Spanky99]

Who is the Bluejay SS/2b, without cheating. It looks like Carter in RF

 

Manny Lee, guess who was on deck when Carter hit his memorable bomb?

[Grant77]

Manny Lee, guess who was on deck when Carter hit his memorable bomb?

 

Olerud is the obvious answer, so probably not him.