General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[Spanky99]

Santana takes him yard.

[Stangstag]

Ok… again the Ump wasn’t even ready nor the catcher.

 

Can’t have this s*** in the regular season

[Laika]

the clock operators are having some issues this game

[THANOS]

I wonder if he's got a tell? They're sitting on him real well.

[Laika]

Ok… again the Ump wasn’t even ready nor the catcher.

 

Can’t have this s*** in the regular season

 

honestly, it seems like the ump is at fault here

lots of weird stuff happening and it seems like it all stems from the ump not being ready

[Stangstag]

the clock operators are having some issues this game

 

Dumb Ump too

[JaysAllMighty]

Dumb Ump too

 

and they don't get any smarter after ST.

[JaysAllMighty]

Nice pickoff

[Spanky99]

Are we gonna have a rule for Umps to be ready though?? Because he was barely ready when he called the auto strike.

 

I think they still have some amendments to make to the clock rule. Clock should freeze if Ump isn’t behind the catcher.

 

Also pirates broadcasters brought up a good point, how whill they handle celebrations/milestones/standing Os??

 

Umpires discretion, same as injuries.

[The_DH]

in the article on Sportsnet today it mentions that Kikuchi wants to fall off the mound differently this year

 

he might be trying something different from the traditional "straight line to home" thing

 

Makes sense. When he followed through in a more traditional way, he was lower in the strike zone and about 92. When his arms were all over the place, he was 96 and it was high (but a swinging strike).

[Laika]

Tiedemann looked fine.

 

The two singles were lucky.

 

He was mostly 97. A bit wild.

[Terminator]

Anyone remember how supposed player's manager Charlie Montoyo treated Kikuchi last year? Saying crap like, "Tough to play behind a guy who isn’t throwing strikes."

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/blue-jays-manager-charlie-montoyo-yusei-kikuchi-struggles/tdrpo4crll4seewczv1gxc6k

 

I'm all for some tough love but you've got to apply it to the right players. A soft-spoken guy who is obviously taking his struggles hard isn't the guy you publicly dump on through the media.

 

Now you can't blame Montoyo for Kooch's struggles. But I do think a better work environment can help the mental midgets of the team to a degree.

[Laika]

Anyone remember how supposed player's manager Charlie Montoyo treated Kikuchi last year? Saying crap like, "Tough to play behind a guy who isn’t throwing strikes."

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/blue-jays-manager-charlie-montoyo-yusei-kikuchi-struggles/tdrpo4crll4seewczv1gxc6k

 

I'm all for some tough love but you've got to apply it to the right players. A soft-spoken guy who is obviously taking his struggles hard isn't the guy you publicly dump on through the media.

 

LOL I dunno, man

 

Kikuchi had been given all the soft treatment to that point

[Spanky99]

I wonder if he's got a tell? They're sitting on him real well.

 

lol

[JaysAllMighty]

They need that clock to be 20 secs at all times, not just when there's someone on base. That extra 5 secs helps.

[Brownie19]

Ok… again the Ump wasn’t even ready nor the catcher.

 

Can’t have this s*** in the regular season

 

A few minor blips in the radar is certainly no reason to panic or change course. Adjustments were made in the minors last year, which provides MLB with a f***ton of information that will help accelerate the adjustments this year. I'm still not sure how anyone watches a couple of innings (without any clock violations) and thinks to themselves - this f***ing sucks, I want to see the pitcher step off, or the batter to step out more often - slow the game down!

 

You can bitch about the growing pains, but we literally just went through this last year in another league without major issues. By this time next year - I suspect we rarely, if ever, even talk about the clock.

[Terminator]

LOL I dunno, man

 

Kikuchi had been given all the soft treatment to that point

 

Just go with it lol

[Terminator]

Kikuchi then turned to alcohol to numb the pain from his manager berating him in public. We all remember the story about his teammates getting him loaded on the team flights.

[Krylian]

Should've traded Tiedemann while his value was high.

[Laika]

Mr. Tiedemann had a tidy inning there, including a silly strikeout from Rodolfo Castro (who is a decent hitter).

[The_DH]

Tiedemann isn't ready for full time play yet, but he will be soon...real soon.

[Laika]

Oh he's definitely ready

At worst he's some decent version of Robbie Ray

[THANOS]

lol

 

Laugh all you'd like, they were definitely sitting FB or reading him well. Could be all guess work but they were on the FB.

[The_DH]

10 minor league starts and he will be. Won't be surprised if he finishes the year in Toronto.

[Laika]

10 minor league starts and he will be. Won't be surprised if he finishes the year in Toronto.

 

10 wasted bullets

[Terminator]

Seems like we've got a decent 1-5. I assume Tiddyman will be on an innings limit and we can also manipulate his service time (that's still doable right?) so might as well start him off the minors for now.

[Terminator]

But it seems like he's moved to #6 to me.

 

Thompson's stuff is ass and White's stuff is probably also ass and he's behind schedule too. Ricky is next man up.

[Stangstag]

A few minor blips in the radar is certainly no reason to panic or change course. Adjustments were made in the minors last year, which provides MLB with a f***ton of information that will help accelerate the adjustments this year. I'm still not sure how anyone watches a couple of innings (without any clock violations) and thinks to themselves - this f***ing sucks, I want to see the pitcher step off, or the batter to step out more often - slow the game down!

 

You can bitch about the growing pains, but we literally just went through this last year in another league without major issues. By this time next year - I suspect we rarely, if ever, even talk about the clock.

 

Sorry, to be clear I am in favor of the pitch clock. Im just saying I don't want to see games decided with s***** implementation of the clock rules like we saw a couple times today. I'm bitching about the growing pains as you say.

[THANOS]

But it seems like he's moved to #6 to me.

 

Thompson's stuff is ass and White's stuff is probably also ass and he's behind schedule too. Ricky is next man up.

 

Is Zulueta on the 40 man? He could be #6 atm because of that reason.

[Laika]

Probably depends on the injury

 

If they need a guy for a start or two they won't use Tiedemann or Zulueta

But if it's to a replace a guy for a while, maybe they do just go straight to Teeds