Around Baseball 2023

[connorp]

Right…. This is baseball

 

It just speaks to the challenges. People are like “baseball doesn’t market Mike Trout” etc but there really isn’t much of an appetite for it

[glory]

He probably signed like a 12 year deal worth the same amount as 1yr for the average NBA player

 

Ohtani might be an exception:

 

The 28-year-old Japanese phenom is becoming a lightning rod for brands — both in the United States and in his native Japan.

 

* In 2022, Ohtani reportedly made $20M off the field before taxes and agents’ fees, tripling his endorsement numbers from 2021 and serving as the highest mark in MLB in at least a decade, per Forbes.

* He was on the covers of GQ, Sports Illustrated, and Time, as well as the video game “MLB: The Show” in the span of six months.

* He had 17 different brand endorsements in 2022 — the most ever tracked by SponsorUnited. He also attracted 22 Japanese brands to advertise at Angels Stadium, the most of any MLB ballpark.

 

Once he becomes a free agent and signs a $500m+ contract (assuming he stays healthy), his brand value is only going to grow, especially since it appears he's either going to be Steve Cohen's next piece of art or a Dodger, and those two competing with each other is only going to drive his price up.

 

The only other NBA star with New Balance is Kawhi (I think), and while Kawhi is a big star in the NBA, he's not the household name that other NBA stars are (LeBron, Curry, KD, etc). Wouldn't shock me if Ohtani's deal with NB is close to Kawhi's, but I don't think the numbers are out yet.

[Dick_Pole]

Ohtani is the BTS of baseball (Korean boy band, not BJMB poster).

 

His innocence, looks and charm will attract all the ladies. But he doesn't have the effeminate part of BTS (Korean band nor BJMB poster) which will still keep all the old school baseball fans on board. Finally, add in the odd, slightly OCD behaviour he has around baseball and training and that will attract all the young stat nerds and other weirdos that gravitate towards baseball. Ohtani is basically like Trevor Bauer except not ugly, not creepy (to our knowledge) and doesn't know enough English words to say something that will offend someone.

 

Basically Ohtani is the perfect sponsorship icon and spokesman for the MLB. That's why he is getting this deal.

[connorp]

A lot of his money come from back home though I’d assume. It’s like Yao Ming. Guy was actually overall a disappointment due to injuries but one of the richest players from off the court stuff. Still is

[Ehjays]

[G-Snarls]

LOL @ Cleveland

[Deadpool]

[The Cats Ass]

Come on, man. Really? I think it should be folded lol

 

So you feel women don't deserve to play sports?

[Deadpool]

So you feel women don't deserve to play sports?

 

I, for one, am shocked by that unsurprising stance!

[wilko]

Come on, man. Really? I think it should be folded lol

 

Sexist much?

[G-Snarls]

[connorp]

Sexist much?

 

It’s subsidized. I usually I take issue with with subsidized stuff

 

I’m not one to take issue with what people want. If the Pro Curling circuit makes money, more power to it. I won’t be watching

[Terminator]

 

Good job by the Royals to keep this man employed.

[Laika]

too much for Zack but happy for him

Royals paying a lot for a mascot to pitch some innings haha

 

inb4 "I'd take him over Kikuchi"

yeah we know we all f***ing would, shut the f*** up

[The Cats Ass]

too much for Zack but happy for him

Royals paying a lot for a mascot to pitch some innings haha

 

inb4 "I'd take him over Kikuchi"

yeah we know we all f***ing would, shut the f*** up

 

Well he did just put up a 2 WAR season (2.6 bWAR) with a FIP of 4, and an ERA under that. If he repeats he earns every bit. Gibson got 10M, and Greinke > Gibson

[Laika]

Well he did just put up a 2 WAR season (2.6 bWAR) with a FIP of 4, and an ERA under that. If he repeats he earns every bit. Gibson got 10M, and Greinke > Gibson

 

Yeah it's fine

 

1 war projection and being paid for that much production

[The Cats Ass]

Yeah it's fine

 

1 war projection and being paid for that much production

 

I think he out performs that. He’s better IRL than fantasy. He seems to have learned how to pitch while throwing 89.

[Captain_Obvious]

What did the Orioles get out of promoting Rutschman in May? I cannot find a single non-tangible benefit and a couple of major negative outcomes:

1- Lose 1 year of Rutschman control

2- Go down a few slots in the draft

 

If non-competitive teams believe their prospects have a good shot at being Rookie of the Year, then they should add them to opening day roster or wait until July at the earliest to promote them. Promoting good prospects between April and June when the team is not competitive is just counter-productive.

[Laika]

What did the Orioles get out of promoting Rutschman in May? I cannot find a single non-tangible benefit and a couple of major negative outcomes:

1- Lose 1 year of Rutschman control

2- Go down a few slots in the draft

 

If non-competitive teams believe their prospects have a good shot at being Rookie of the Year, then they should add them to opening day roster or wait until July at the earliest to promote them. Promoting good prospects between April and June when the team is not competitive is just counter-productive.

 

Goodwill

 

His development

 

But yeah it was more like... He was on the opening day roster if not hurt so they just put him on the team when healthy

[Spanky__99]

What did the Orioles get out of promoting Rutschman in May? I cannot find a single non-tangible benefit and a couple of major negative outcomes:

1- Lose 1 year of Rutschman control

2- Go down a few slots in the draft

 

If non-competitive teams believe their prospects have a good shot at being Rookie of the Year, then they should add them to opening day roster or wait until July at the earliest to promote them. Promoting good prospects between April and June when the team is not competitive is just counter-productive.

 

Wasn't he injured?

[connorp]

Wasn't he injured?

 

Yeah and I’m not looking, but I don’t think he was setting the minors on fire. So it was a rehab more than anything

[Captain_Obvious]

Wasn't he injured?

 

I don't think that matters. You do not get the high draft pick if he is not on opening day roster yet you still lose the year of control if he finishes top 2 in RotY. Noncompetitive teams are better off waiting until July or later to promote good prospects if said prospects start the year in the minors. It is in the team's interest to minimize their players' chances of winning RotY in this scenario.

[Jimcanuck]

I don't think that matters. You do not get the high draft pick if he is not on opening day roster yet you still lose the year of control if he finishes top 2 in RotY. Noncompetitive teams are better off waiting until July or later to promote good prospects if said prospects start the year in the minors. It is in the team's interest to minimize their players' chances of winning RotY in this scenario.

 

The O's owner is known to be stoopid

[connorp]

I don't think that matters. You do not get the high draft pick if he is not on opening day roster yet you still lose the year of control if he finishes top 2 in RotY. Noncompetitive teams are better off waiting until July or later to promote good prospects if said prospects start the year in the minors. It is in the team's interest to minimize their players' chances of winning RotY in this scenario.

 

Hopefully for the sake of baseball and it’s fans, last years sss continues to be the case, and teams get away from that philosophy

[Deadpool]

Hopefully for the sake of baseball and it’s fans, last years sss continues to be the case, and teams get away from that philosophy

 

It's not so much a "philosophy" as it is a "calculated business decision" (for the non-stupid teams anyway...)

[connorp]

It's not so much a "philosophy" as it is a "calculated business decision" (for the non-stupid teams anyway...)

 

Yet teams started to get away from it. Clearly. Could’ve been something discussed that’s not spelled out in the CBA. So why not root for that instead of getting joy from knowing how smart you are, and how stupid teams are.

[Spanky__99]

I don't think that matters. You do not get the high draft pick if he is not on opening day roster yet you still lose the year of control if he finishes top 2 in RotY. Noncompetitive teams are better off waiting until July or later to promote good prospects if said prospects start the year in the minors. It is in the team's interest to minimize their players' chances of winning RotY in this scenario.

 

Well, if they had told him he made the team, no coming back from that, right.

[RobinThicc]

What did the Orioles get out of promoting Rutschman in May? I cannot find a single non-tangible benefit and a couple of major negative outcomes:

1- Lose 1 year of Rutschman control

2- Go down a few slots in the draft

 

If non-competitive teams believe their prospects have a good shot at being Rookie of the Year, then they should add them to opening day roster or wait until July at the earliest to promote them. Promoting good prospects between April and June when the team is not competitive is just counter-productive.

 

Theyre gonna sign him to an extension so it doesnt matter

[Spanky__99]

Theyre gonna sign him to an extension so it doesnt matter

 

Sure it does, money.

[G-Snarls]

Theyre gonna sign him to an extension so it doesnt matter

 

And then trade him too late of course

 

It's what they do