2022 Trade Deadline Thread

[LGBJ29]

Ha, I had mentioned Pop as a supplemental piece for our pen... However, Bass sucks and I hope much more on the horizon..

 

lol come on

[Laika]

disappointing to lose Groshans without giving him another crack at AAA

 

but his numbers do suck

 

Bass is pitching like an actual good reliever this year and controllable for 2023, cheap option. Throwing more sliders than ever.

 

Pop throws 97 mph sinkers I think and is controllable forever.

 

It's not a BAD trade.

[Daniel Labude]

Are you guys serious? Groshans is almost 23 has hit for zero power the past two years. It's not like he sports a .300+ BA either.

 

If it's Bass and Pop for him, that's a great trade. Pop has lots of control.

 

Garrett Cooper potential if he keeps going without improvements

[lovemyjays]

Will be fun seeing the Canadian duo of Pop & Romano close our games out. (has a nice ring to it too)

[HERPDERP]

underwhelming

[Sorrow]

Bass is a legit get for this season.

 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/anthony-bass-542914?stats=statcast-r-pitching-mlb

 

That red.

[BlueJaysFever]

Ha, I had mentioned Pop as a supplemental piece for our pen... However, Bass sucks and I hope much more on the horizon..

 

Bass is a rental having an absurdly good season especially in high leverage situations. He already has 1.6 bWar

[JaysAllMighty]

Zach Pop : 99 mph

 

https://www.mlb.com/video/zach-pop-escapes-a-jam-in-the-5th

[THANOS]

We better land Thor & Iglesias now and eat all the money for a smaller return.

[glory]

Actually, I just looked at Groshans minor league numbers. Wow this dude fell off hard. I knew his power was down but rest of his numbers look pedestrian as well.

 

Jays likely gave up on him and figured his value wasn't going to get any higher. For a team that develops position players pretty well overall, I trust their judgment on him.

[Angrioter]

Groshans for something is a good move right now. Bass with a great season so far.

 

Adiós s*** reliever. Welcome home Bass and Pop. Atkins good move.

[max silver]

This trade really upgrades the Jays pen to a large degree. Pop looks like a pitch to contact guy but he has a huge sinker. Bass is in the midst of a monster season and arguably becomes the bullpen's best reliever. It's too bad Groshans has turned into a pumpkin in the upper minors but he's largely become expendable.

[Angrioter]

1st Martin and now Groshans. Atkins getting something before the bomb explode

[Stangstag]

Alright now send Moreno + to the Cubs for Robertson + Happ + Contreras

 

Flip Contreras + Pearson to the Dodgers for Gonsolin

[43211234]

Bass is weird.

 

4-seamer slider guy at the start of his career.

 

Then suddenly starts throwing a splitter 20% of the time.

 

Was a sinker/slider guy with the Blue Jays in 2020 getting 62% groundballs, mostly scrapping the splitter.

 

Now he throws sliders almost 60% of the time.

[metafour]

Garrett Cooper potential if he keeps going without improvements

 

Without improvements? Garrett Cooper has much better ISO's as a full-time MLB player than Groshans is sporting in the minors.

 

The Jays have been very good at evaluating their own prospects and dumping guys that they perceive to be non-losses. They are also universally seen as being one of the best teams at developing hitters, thus the fact that they are giving up on Groshans should tell you something. I'm sure the Marlins hope to squeeze something out of him, but Groshans really looks pretty poop right now...and he's not young either.

[Dagagad]

I don’t love selling groshans so low but you do what you have to do.

 

Really hope that our pitching dev revolution in the low minors is real because the price of pitching at the deadline is getting awfully expensive.

[DigitalRock]

Jays getting bass and Zachary pop

[JaysAllMighty]

Jays getting bass and Zachary pop

 

maybe read before posting... lol

[LGBJ29]

Zach Pop : 99 mph

 

https://www.mlb.com/video/zach-pop-escapes-a-jam-in-the-5th

 

holy s***

[Solaxys]

Pop is also from Brampton

[RustyTrombone]

So new BP hierarchy:

Romano CL

Bass SU1

Garcia SU2

Mayza MR1

Cimber MR2

Phelps MR3

Pop MR4

 

7 miles of dogshit after this, am I forgetting anyone?

[The Cats Ass]

Bass has actually been a top 10 RP this year.

[ValiantJaysFan]

I mean it's underwhelming but the bullpen is definitely improved. Not enough but... It's something.

[Sammy225]

only reason im upset about this deal is because i expected groshans to be part of a package for a star player.

 

it's a solid deal on paper. i think groshans is quite overrated.

 

What do expect a sub .700 ops corner infielder to get you.... IMO you either trade him now or you hope that he finds something and his value goes up

[Brownie19]

Bass is a rental having an absurdly good season especially in high leverage situations. He already has 1.6 bWar

 

Club option for 2023 no?

[Ehjays]

[Laika]

Bass has a better ERA and fWAR than Jorge Lopez or Scott Effross FWIW

[jaysblue]

Pop is also from Brampton

 

I love Canadian players! Jays should trade for more

[metafour]

What do expect a sub .700 ops corner infielder to get you.... IMO you either trade him now or you hope that he finds something and his value goes up

 

Even as part of a trade for a "star player", Groshans would be like a #4 or #5 piece. He's not heavily contributing to any trade for a star player.