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Omar

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Eat My Shatkins First Round Pick

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Welp, if you have told me at the start of this 8 games we'd be 4-4 I probably would have taken it, but sucks starting out 4-1 only to lose 3 straight.

 

Jays now play 13 games against the A's, Mariners, Phillies and Royals.

 

Hopefully they can go 9-4 in that stretch but I have my doubts.

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Welp, if you have told me at the start of this 8 games we'd be 4-4 I probably would have taken it, but sucks starting out 4-1 only to lose 3 straight.

 

Jays now play 13 games against the A's, Mariners, Phillies and Royals.

 

Hopefully they can go 9-4 in that stretch but I have my doubts.

 

Yeah they really have to play well on this road trip. Can’t afford to go .500 or less. At least 8-5 is what they should be aiming

Spanky99 GOAT

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The skyÂ’s not falling. I just have bigger expectations than a 4/5 year window and then bad again. ThatÂ’s what happens when you arenÂ’t elite at pitching dev and bullpen construction and we are OBVIOUSLY not elite at either of those things.

 

You're sweating the window, bro. Plus, we're good.

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Garbage at bats there by Gurriel and Kirk. Ah well.

 

2-3 against the Rays at home kinda sucks but it could be a lot worse. Jays have been bad with doubleheaders for ages now

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Garbage at bats there by Gurriel and Kirk. Ah well.

 

2-3 against the Rays at home kinda sucks but it could be a lot worse. Jays have been bad with doubleheaders for ages now

 

I dunno, the at bats looked so bad because the pitchers stuff is so damn good and he located it perfectly.

Dagagad Draft Eligible

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You're sweating the window, bro. Plus, we're good.

 

Yea we are good, and should be good for another 2/3 years after this. And then bad.

max silver FCL Blue Jays

max silver

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Yea we are good, and should be good for another 2/3 years after this. And then bad.

 

No need for the constant doom and gloom. If Rogers continues to put up the bucks the team should have plenty of chances to continue to compete. It's not like all of the key players are going to leave at once, and there are plenty of prospects in the pipeline working their way up as we speak. The team doesn't have a barren minor league system lacking in talent, the system is very healthy in the lower levels of the minors.

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Fair, but I don’t think you can argue the pen didn’t cost us the other 3 games

 

Yes you can. Gausman went down early against one of baseball's best starters. That's not the pen's fault. In game two of the doubleheader Hatch absolutely got his teeth kicked in, that's not on the pen either. And in today's game the offence left a million runners on base against Baz and Stripling allowed 4 runs to score. The team only scored 3 runs, that's not on the pen either.

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Yes you can. Gausman went down early against one of baseball's best starters. That's not the pen's fault. In game two of the doubleheader Hatch absolutely got his teeth kicked in, that's not on the pen either. And in today's game the offence left a million runners on base against Baz and Stripling allowed 4 runs to score. The team only scored 3 runs, that's not on the pen either.

 

You’re right! The bullpen isn’t a problem at all!

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max silver

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You’re right! The bullpen isn’t a problem at all!

 

Chill the f*** out man. When did I ever state the bullpen wasn't an issue? I simply said the pen really wasn't the primary reason the club lost the 3 games in the Tampa series. Starting pitching injury/lack of effectiveness and lack of offence was largely to blame for the way the series went. If Gausman didn't get hit with a comebacker who knows how that game turns out. As soon as he was out of the game in the second inning it was effectively over against a true ace such as McClanahan. If Hatch didn't get crushed in the second game who knows how that turns out. The pen was actually good in game 2 in the doubleheader as they only allowed 1 run in 4-1/3 innings. I've already stated that Stripling gave up 4 runs all on his own and the offence only provided 3 runs. The bullpen had no effect on that loss. Perhaps the team would have had a better chance to come back with a more effective outing from Thornton but the bullpen giving up a s*** ton of runs ultimately didn't affect the final outcome.

JFD FCL Blue Jays

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The bullpen would be fine if they didnt give up a s*** ton of runs to a sub 100 wRC+ offence... lul Edited by JFD
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Wanna place a bet?

 

I guess. It’s 3 years away. Are we really going to follow through on it?

 

Anyway, I’ll bet that we won’t be a 90 win team in 2026. That would be a 5 year window.

 

Edit; let’s say 85 wins. 90 is too high a bar.

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Stangstag

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I guess. It’s 3 years away. Are we really going to follow through on it?

 

Anyway, I’ll bet that we won’t be a 90 win team in 2026. That would be a 5 year window.

 

Edit; let’s say 85 wins. 90 is too high a bar.

 

That sounds fair. That is a very long time though lol. 100$??

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I just can't believe we went from winning 2/3 against Boston, then 2 in a row against Tampa but then managed to lose the next three in a row. Even one win yesterday or today would feel so much better.
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That sounds fair. That is a very long time though lol. 100$??

 

Haha, I’m down. I’ll be happy to lose $100 if it means we are good too.

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Stangstag

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Haha, I’m down. I’ll be happy to lose $100 if it means we are good too.

 

Alright you’re on. I believe in this front office. 85 wins in 2026 or I owe you 100$.

 

Only rule I guess would be that it has to be a full 162 season. No half season/games lost to strike obviously.

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Stangstag

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I just can't believe we went from winning 2/3 against Boston, then 2 in a row against Tampa but then managed to lose the next three in a row. Even one win yesterday or today would feel so much better.

 

Its f***ing Tampa I think we all expected it tbh. They’re always a thorn in our side

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