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Ya if it comes to it, you trade Jansen and split Moreno/Kirk between C and DH.

 

Maybe even give Moreno some reps at 1B on days to get Vladdy days off but that's of course he's as good as advertised. You never want to get ahead of yourself until a player can prove he can play at the major league level.

 

Depends on the trade value, they could go any way realistically. Oh to be a fly on the wall in those internal discussions.

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Talk all the s*** about Vlad and Bo you want, but don’t go f***ing with Cavan lol.

 

Look at this stupid f***^^^^ God damned troglodyte. lol

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This team is poised to go to the playoffs the next three years, maybe more. You don't trade your most reliable catcher in the hopes that Moreno may be something in the future. Win now mode means you need both Jano and Kirk. If Moreno can prove himself at the mlb level than you can make a move. That won't be this year unless Atkins can land the "White Whale" in a blockbuster....then all bets are off. Other than that, hold the course.

 

Vetrin Presents pays off.

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In other news... the Jays are playing .600 ball and climbing. Feels Good Man!

 

And with our luck, we’re still 7 games back.

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And with our luck, we’re still 7 games back.

 

Being comatose with RISP for nearly 2 months will do that. If they had just been remotely serviceable we would be right there with the Yankees. A shame they didn’t snap out of it sooner but thank god they did eventually.

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This team is poised to go to the playoffs the next three years, maybe more. You don't trade your most reliable catcher in the hopes that Moreno may be something in the future. Win now mode means you need both Jano and Kirk. If Moreno can prove himself at the mlb level than you can make a move. That won't be this year unless Atkins can land the "White Whale" in a blockbuster....then all bets are off. Other than that, hold the course.

 

Vetrin Presents pays off.

 

I mean, we say that but the rays traded their starting short stop last year to make room for a prospect. A couple of prospects actually.

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This should not be a go for it year for the jays . They have too many deficiencies compared to the Yankees. This is the Yankees year
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I mean, we say that but the rays traded their starting short stop last year to make room for a prospect. A couple of prospects actually.

 

They po' folk. Flat broke.

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This should not be a go for it year for the jays . They have too many deficiencies compared to the Yankees. This is the Yankees year

 

Anything can happen in a short series. #Braves

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And this post just might be one of the worst I've read on here, in quite awhile. Check yourself man.

 

Sorry, missed the /s there.

That was from a post on reddit :P.

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Jays aren't catching the Yankees this year. Yankees are way better than the jays unfortunately

 

Well, currently Jays have played the hardest schedule in basbeall...Yankees the 23rd. Jays are the only team in the top 12 with over 28 wins

 

According to another source we are 2nd and the Yankees 27th

 

What we have done given our offense for May has been amazing

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And with our luck, we’re still 7 games back.

 

That's fine, Jays will catch em.

 

Sorry, missed the /s there.

That was from a post on reddit :P.

 

You copy/pasta'd a post from reddit to me, why?

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Well, currently Jays have played the hardest schedule in basbeall...Yankees the 23rd. Jays are the only team in the top 12 with over 28 wins

 

According to another source we are 2nd and the Yankees 27th

 

What we have done given our offense for May has been amazing

 

Don’t have to catch the Yankees in the standings, just have to beat them in a playoff series.

 

Can’t ever expect an easy path to the World Series. Lets just get into the playoffs and see what happens. See what these guys can do.

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Don’t have to catch the Yankees in the standings, just have to beat them in a playoff series.

 

Can’t ever expect an easy path to the World Series. Lets just get into the playoffs and see what happens. See what these guys can do.

 

That's the plan

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You copy/pasta'd a post from reddit to me, why?

 

It was the response someone gave to the discussion on Vlad when his wRC+ was brought up. Felt fitting to share the doom and gloom that has been circling on reddit regarding the similar discussion here.

 

Missed the mark on humor.

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They po' folk. Flat broke.

 

They are also trying to win. Trading a starter isn’t necessarily out of line with winning.

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I’m still not giving up on the division. Offense still isn’t firing on all cylinders. Vlad, Teo, Bo, Chapman, Lourdes all will have better stats by end of season then they currently do. Pitching staff will get a breather with an easy strength of schedule. Defense has been mostly good.

 

It is somewhat irritating that we’re on a 97 win pace and are still 7 games behind the Yankees, but we’ll close the gap. Firmly believe that our best baseball is still ahead of us.

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This should not be a go for it year for the jays . They have too many deficiencies compared to the Yankees. This is the Yankees year

 

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I’m still not giving up on the division. Offense still isn’t firing on all cylinders. Vlad, Teo, Bo, Chapman, Lourdes all will have better stats by end of season then they currently do. Pitching staff will get a breather with an easy strength of schedule. Defense has been mostly good.

 

It is somewhat irritating that we’re on a 97 win pace and are still 7 games behind the Yankees, but we’ll close the gap. Firmly believe that our best baseball is still ahead of us.

 

I think the yanks cool off as the season progresses

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Don’t have to catch the Yankees in the standings, just have to beat them in a playoff series.

 

Can’t ever expect an easy path to the World Series. Lets just get into the playoffs and see what happens. See what these guys can do.

 

Finishing ahead of the Yankees and winning the division would set us up better for success though. We'd get the bye through the first round, and get to line up our top starters for the ALDS. Instead of having to worry about winning a best of 3 in the wild card round.

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I’m still not giving up on the division. Offense still isn’t firing on all cylinders. Vlad, Teo, Bo, Chapman, Lourdes all will have better stats by end of season then they currently do. Pitching staff will get a breather with an easy strength of schedule. Defense has been mostly good.

 

It is somewhat irritating that we’re on a 97 win pace and are still 7 games behind the Yankees, but we’ll close the gap. Firmly believe that our best baseball is still ahead of us.

 

If this not an offence firing on all cylinders recently it must be awfully close. The team has a collective 167 WRC+ since May 25, which started during the second game in the St. Louis series where the improved approach at the plate seemed to click. They have scored 92 runs in a 12 run span, a 7.66 run per game pace. During this stretch the team is first in WRC+, batting average, on base percentage, slugging, walk rate, second in home runs, second in runs scored etc. It's hard to really expect much better than that. I also looked up the stats during this recent hot stretch for the players you've listed, and each of these guys has been hot during this stretch as well;

 

Vlad has produced a 163 WRC+ but has another gear available as he is only sporting a .224 average/.152 BABIP during this stretch

Teo has produced a 174 WRC+ but only 1 home run during this period

Bo has produced a 194 WRC+ and an uncharacteristic 12.9% BB/9

Chapman has produced a 160 WRC+ and is finally being rewarded for his quality of contact, only 16% k rate during this period

Lourdes has produced a 170 WRC+, 16.3% BB/14.0% k rate during this stretch

 

Aside from the guys listed in your post there have been other contributors up and down the lineup. These include:

 

Kirk absolutely on fire with a 307 WRC+

Espinal hot again after a mini slump with a 149 WRC+

Springer continues to be consistently good in early going with a 146 WRC+

Jansen cooled off a bit but still good at 114 WRC+

 

Even the bench players have been pitching in:

 

Biggio with a 158 WRC+, 24.1% walk rate

Tapia with a 131 WRC+, much better walk and k rates during this stretch, hopefully a sign of better things to come

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If this not an offence firing on all cylinders recently it must be awfully close. The team has a collective 167 WRC+ since May 25, which started during the second game in the St. Louis series where the improved approach at the plate seemed to click. They have scored 92 runs in a 12 run span, a 7.66 run per game pace. During this stretch the team is first in WRC+, batting average, on base percentage, slugging, walk rate, second in home runs, second in runs scored etc. It's hard to really expect much better than that. I also looked up the stats during this recent hot stretch for the players you've listed, and each of these guys has been hot during this stretch as well;

 

Vlad has produced a 163 WRC+ but has another gear available as he is only sporting a .224 average/.152 BABIP during this stretch

Teo has produced a 174 WRC+ but only 1 home run during this period

Bo has produced a 194 WRC+ and an uncharacteristic 12.9% BB/9

Chapman has produced a 160 WRC+ and is finally being rewarded for his quality of contact, only 16% k rate during this period

Lourdes has produced a 170 WRC+, 16.3% BB/14.0% k rate during this stretch

 

Aside from the guys listed in your post there have been other contributors up and down the lineup. These include:

 

Kirk absolutely on fire with a 307 WRC+

Espinal hot again after a mini slump with a 149 WRC+

Springer continues to be consistently good in early going with a 146 WRC+

Jansen cooled off a bit but still good at 114 WRC+

 

Even the bench players have been pitching in:

 

Biggio with a 158 WRC+, 24.1% walk rate

Tapia with a 131 WRC+, much better walk and k rates during this stretch, hopefully a sign of better things to come

 

I think we are close to the firing on all cylinders. Lots of players hitting well to great. Still some room for improvement

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