Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)

[Dick_Pole]

2/16 with an opt out? That's WAY better for him than 1/8.

 

I guess. Depends if teams would do that. There has to be a fairly low ceiling given that anyone could have traded him for a marginal prospect and secured him for 1/18.

[BTS]

A few Pillar-like plays in CF would fix that right up. Does this dude have any highlights of him eating grass? Or is his defensive value all good reads?

 

He's definitely not a highlight reel like Pillar. Mostly good reads and steady mistake-free defense.

[The_DH]

Having Bellinger feels like Colby Rasmus v2.0. Not a bad get and the overall defence improves. If 2 years is the deal, it's not that bad.

[Spanky99]

Wasn't he right about this one:

 

 

He was and so was the other guy on the Gausman deal. Meh...

[glory]

Bellinger is going to want Toronto. It seems too obvious.

 

Whether or not Toronto wants him is the question. Depends on what they think of his defense and his chances to help at all offensively. They’ll be weighing this against what they are being told Kiermaier wants, and whatever their trade discussions are so far.

 

Yeah, not only because of recent history (Semien), but the Jays have a s*** outfield aside from Springer. They'd play Bellinger everyday out of sheer necessity. I'm sure Bellinger/Boras both want it.

[Jonn]

 

Well I’m glad that one didn’t come true. God damn.

[JaysAllMighty]

Having Bellinger feels like Colby Rasmus v2.0. Not a bad get and the overall defence improves. If 2 years is the deal, it's not that bad.

 

the 2019 Bellinger version is soooooooooo appealing.

[Jimcanuck]

I saw that Jimbo

 

I'm having an inner battle, one half of me wants to mercilessly troll connor and the other half wants to maintain board decorum

[The_DH]

I'm even happy with the average of 2019 and recent years.

[Spanky99]

The casuals would hate Bellinger so much. The whining will be incessant if he puts up 2.5 WAR on a 0.210 average, a 27% K rate, and nothing but massive swings at everything.

 

Bellinger is absolute garbage at the plate.

 

lmao

[Jonn]

I’m more in the camp right now that I hope we can do better but would be happy with Bellinger experiment if he proves to the best option in terms of cost and value. The Jays main position player goal this off-season is finding someone you want to play CF for the next 4 or 5 years. That is more likely through a trade. Something definitely has to give with the Diamondbacks OF situation.

[Spanky99]

Having Bellinger feels like Colby Rasmus v2.0. Not a bad get and the overall defence improves. If 2 years is the deal, it's not that bad.

 

We don't have s***, bruh.

[Krylian]

I would be intrigued with Bellinger for sure. That said, I would hope that he's not viewed as a straight one-for-one replacement of Teoscar in the lineup. I would want another addition of significance as well.

[Spanky99]

I'm having an inner battle, one half of me wants to mercilessly troll connor and the other half wants to maintain board decorum

 

Pussy.

[Krylian]

We don't have s***, bruh.

 

Not a fan of being MoLested I see.

[The_DH]

I’m more in the camp right now that I hope we can do better but would be happy with Bellinger experiment if he proves to the best option in terms of cost and value. The Jays main position player goal this off-season is finding someone you want to play CF for the next 4 or 5 years. That is more likely through a trade. Something definitely has to give with the Diamondbacks OF situation.

 

But is it maybe best to go one year (or two years max) with Bellinger and then get a real candidate? Maybe there's someone better coming along next year??

[Krylian]

But is it maybe best to go one year (or two years max) with Bellinger and then get a real candidate? Maybe there's someone better coming along next year??

 

Bellinger wants a short term deal anyway.

[Spanky99]

Not a fan of being MoLested I see.

 

Or Bobo'd.

[max silver]

But is it maybe best to go one year (or two years max) with Bellinger and then get a real candidate? Maybe there's someone better coming along next year??

 

Next year's outfield free agent crop is pretty bad if you are looking for a center field option.

 

Outfield: Harrison Bader, Charlie Blackmon, Mark Canha (club option), Randal Grichuk, Ian Happ, Teoscar Hernández, Max Kepler (club option), Hunter Renfroe, Eddie Rosario (club option), Jorge Soler (opt-out), Michael A. Taylor, Jesse Winker

[jaysblue]

Next year's outfield free agent crop is pretty bad if you are looking for a center field option.

 

Outfield: Harrison Bader, Charlie Blackmon, Mark Canha (club option), Randal Grichuk, Ian Happ, Teoscar Hernández, Max Kepler (club option), Hunter Renfroe, Eddie Rosario (club option), Jorge Soler (opt-out), Michael A. Taylor, Jesse Winker

 

If Bellinger posts a 4-5 WAR season in 2023, he'll get a huge payday.

 

Best route for a long term CF is through trade.

[Stangstag]

Next year's outfield free agent crop is pretty bad if you are looking for a center field option.

 

Outfield: Harrison Bader, Charlie Blackmon, Mark Canha (club option), Randal Grichuk, Ian Happ, Teoscar Hernández, Max Kepler (club option), Hunter Renfroe, Eddie Rosario (club option), Jorge Soler (opt-out), Michael A. Taylor, Jesse Winker

 

This year’s crop is pretty bad too…

[The_DH]

We don't have s***, bruh.

 

Even just the thought or rumour of Bellinger > reality of Zimmer.

 

But yeah.

[jaysblue]

Where would you bat Bellinger in the lineup? Just curious.

[max silver]

This year’s crop is pretty bad too…

 

At least this year at the top there are a few real difference makers in Judge and Nimmo, next season's crop appears to have a ceiling of solid players only.

[Dick_Pole]

As a playoff team that's soon going to have some very expensive roster decisions, the Jays need to worry about 2023 first, then worry about long term holes later. Bellinger at one year > Nimmo at some crazy multi-year contract. Jays likely trade one of their catchers, but I'm leaning towards getting a starting pitcher out of that rather than an OF.

[Spanky99]

Where would you bat Bellinger in the lineup? Just curious.

 

Bottom.

[Jonn]

As a playoff team that's soon going to have some very expensive roster decisions, the Jays need to worry about 2023 first, then worry about long term holes later. Bellinger at one year > Nimmo at some crazy multi-year contract. Jays likely trade one of their catchers, but I'm leaning towards getting a starting pitcher out of that rather than an OF.

 

I think they need atleast one long term Outfield option that’s not George Springer. And theres definitely trade options. Jays are in position to do both long term and short term things in order to bolster the roster.

[Spanky99]

As a playoff team that's soon going to have some very expensive roster decisions, the Jays need to worry about 2023 first, then worry about long term holes later. Bellinger at one year > Nimmo at some crazy multi-year contract. Jays likely trade one of their catchers, but I'm leaning towards getting a starting pitcher out of that rather than an OF.

 

Either way really, but I agree.

[Jays24]

Sign me up for Bellinger. Like I said, I care more about above average defense than I do about offense at CF. Find sluggers through the other positions.

[Jonn]

Where would you bat Bellinger in the lineup? Just curious.

 

Probably anymore around 7,8,9 wherever it makes the most sense to a stick a lefty bat in that part of the lineup.