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MiLB union forms are apparently already greater than 50% signing for the union, paperwork is supposedly off to the league office. This is as per Drellich. I don't use Twitter so I don't know if I can link it.
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Cleveland can pitch. McClanahan might be hurt for the playoffs. I think I’d prefer the home games

 

Home games will be a huge advantage in that Wildcard short series no matter who the opponent is. Having last ABs if a game gets to extra innings along with 50K screaming fans at the Rogers Centre definitely is much more favorable.

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MiLB union forms are apparently already greater than 50% signing for the union, paperwork is supposedly off to the league office. This is as per Drellich. I don't use Twitter so I don't know if I can link it.

 

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A Fangraphs idiot says the AL Cy Young is between Ohtani, Verlander, McClanahan, and Cease. Yet, Gausman has the highest WAR.

 

The writer puts Cease in there when Gausman has better numbers pretty much across the board.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/shohei-ohtani-the-al-awards-races-and-unicorns/

 

I would have said Verlander was a lock for the AL Cy Young until he got injured. McClanahan as well would have been in the conversation, though he's on the IL and has struggled a bit in the second half.

 

I think it has to be Gausman based on having the highest WAR and other very strong numbers across the board, though his W-L record will hold him back along with an ERA above 3 when it comes down to the voters.

AMS528 Draft Eligible

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A Fangraphs idiot says the AL Cy Young is between Ohtani, Verlander, McClanahan, and Cease. Yet, Gausman has the highest WAR.

 

The writer puts Cease in there when Gausman has better numbers pretty much across the board.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/shohei-ohtani-the-al-awards-races-and-unicorns/

 

It's not as if he doesn't acknowledge Gausman in there.

 

"Gausman leads in FIP (2.17) and WAR (5.2), but his 3.12 ERA and 3.44 xERA, to these eyes, make him less likely to get serious traction against this competition."

 

That's not unreasonable. We know Gausman has had great peripherals, but has gotten both a bit unlucky and hit hard when guys do make contact.

 

His statcast numbers have him as elite at getting guys to chase and at not walking guys. But those same numbers also indicate when they do hit him they're barreling him up and hitting it fairly hard. Between his FIP and his xERA, it's not really unreasonable to split the difference there.

 

There's more numbers than just WAR now. Gausman has been pretty elite, but by xERA he's been worse than the four pitchers the writer listed. If the writers placing more weight on that particular number than it seems fine.

 

Every year that goes by we get a little more data allowing us to get even more granular when evaluating players performances. FIP was what it was about a few years, and now there's even more stuff.

 

Which is why there's both a completely reasonable case to say Gausman has been the best pitcher and to say no he's been great but not one of the top four guys.

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It's not as if he doesn't acknowledge Gausman in there.

 

"Gausman leads in FIP (2.17) and WAR (5.2), but his 3.12 ERA and 3.44 xERA, to these eyes, make him less likely to get serious traction against this competition."

 

That's not unreasonable. We know Gausman has had great peripherals, but has gotten both a bit unlucky and hit hard when guys do make contact.

 

His statcast numbers have him as elite at getting guys to chase and at not walking guys. But those same numbers also indicate when they do hit him they're barreling him up and hitting it fairly hard. Between his FIP and his xERA, it's not really unreasonable to split the difference there.

 

There's more numbers than just WAR now. Gausman has been pretty elite, but by xERA he's been worse than the four pitchers the writer listed. If the writers placing more weight on that particular number than it seems fine.

 

Every year that goes by we get a little more data allowing us to get even more granular when evaluating players performances. FIP was what it was about a few years, and now there's even more stuff.

 

Which is why there's both a completely reasonable case to say Gausman has been the best pitcher and to say no he's been great but not one of the top four guys.

 

So a writer, Jaffe, that knows better, doesn't include Gausman as a candidate because the voters will focus on ERA? Heck of a disservice to the player.

 

I seem to remember some serious f***ups by Teo and Tapia, among others, when Gausman was pitching.

AMS528 Draft Eligible

AMS528

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So a writer, Jaffe, that knows better, doesn't include Gausman as a candidate because the voters will focus on ERA? Heck of a disservice to the player.

 

I seem to remember some serious f***ups by Teo and Tapia, among others, when Gausman was pitching.

 

I mean saying that again ignores xERA. And like I pointed out his statcast numbers do show that guys are getting good contact off of him.

Stangstag Toronto Blue Jays

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.235/.395/.378 OPS .773 since he was traded

 

Not even bad numbers, just nowhere near usual Soto numbers. Hader has been a dumpster fire for them

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

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Castillo getting hit around now after that dominant start today.

 

Indeed!

 

And Mariners play the red hot Braves next

Omar All-Star

Omar

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No!

Yankees had the bases loaded and nobody out and failed to score

f*** yes

On to the 12th

 

Marinaccio going to give it up:p

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

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Gary Sanchez with a chance to put up the go ahead run against his former team

 

Ooops. He struck out while I was typing.

 

LOL

 

Gary Sanchez ladies and gentlemen

G-Snarls Cooperstown

G-Snarls

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I want this Twins @ Yankees game to keep going. Don't stop.

 

Yes

 

I want Kiner-Falefa to have to pitch or something after the Yanks bullpen is depleted

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