GDT | AFL Championship Game: Solar Sox @ Saguaros | November 20 — 7:00 PM

[TwistedLogic]

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[TwistedLogic]

Moreno HBP on the leg to load the bases and then Horwitz comes through with a 2 RBI single!

[KevinGregg]

Moreno HBP on the leg to load the bases and then Horwitz comes through with a 2 RBI single!

It was a decent at bat, came out of his shoes a little on 2-0… hard to take anything away from an AB that ends in an early HBP.

 

I’m no expert but he seems fine behind the plate so far, first time I’ve watched him though

[TwistedLogic]

Solar Sox moving the line well so far. Moreno should get another at-bat before long.

[TwistedLogic]

It's embarrassing how these f***ing garbage commentators can only talk about Bleday and Velasquez and haven't said a word about Moreno all game except for when he was at the plate.

[KevinGregg]

It's embarrassing how these f***ing garbage commentators can only talk about Bleday and Velasquez and haven't said a word about Moreno all game except for when he was at the plate.

 

Sportsnet should have got Buck to do this game from his apartment

[KevinGregg]

Sportsnet should have got Buck to do this game from his apartment

 

Overmatched by the breaking ball twice in a row for a strikeout

Definitely not giving off super-elite vibes in 2 at bats

[KevinGregg]

Scouting is hard, these guys are lucky they get paid to travel around and attempt to evaluate these players

[TwistedLogic]

[WryNGinger]

I don't like how Moreno sets up his glove as a target and then drops it before moving it back up to "snag" the ball.

[TwistedLogic]

[WryNGinger]

Moreno's run up the line to first in the top of the 7th was NOT a 35 rating.

[Spanky99]

 

 

Too bad he wasn't protected. He gone!

[Jays24]

Damn... this thread is so hardcore lol.

[John_Havok]

Moreno's run up the line to first in the top of the 7th was NOT a 35 rating.

 

Scouts will generally go low on catchers speed simply because in 3 years they’ll have no knees.

[Brownie19]

Sportsnet should have got Buck to do this game from his apartment

 

Let's get Buck to talk about prospects. That will go over well.

[Brownie19]

I don't like how Moreno sets up his glove as a target and then drops it before moving it back up to "snag" the ball.

 

You might be trapped in 2006. One knee and starting the glove low and working 'up' to the ball is how it's taught these days for 'reasons'.

[John_Havok]

You might be trapped in 2006. One knee and starting the glove low and working 'up' to the ball is how it's taught these days for 'reasons'.

 

The one knee thing is runner-on-base dependent and out/count dependent for the most part. They will mostly only do the one leg setup with nobody on base, less than two strikes because they don't have to worry about wild pitches leading to advancing a runner, or a third swinging strike getting past them.

[Brownie19]

The one knee thing is runner-on-base dependent and out/count dependent for the most part. They will mostly only do the one leg setup with nobody on base, less than two strikes because they don't have to worry about wild pitches leading to advancing a runner, or a third swinging strike getting past them.

 

I will admit I'm just now learning some of the nuances of catching as my middle son wants to become a catcher - but I think there are lots of catchers who are on 1 knee with runners on base and/or 2 strikes.

 

And I know this because every time it happens, Buck Martinez has to comment on it and complain about what catchers are being taught because it's not the old school approach.

[G-Snarls]

I will admit I'm just now learning some of the nuances of catching as my middle son wants to become a catcher - but I think there are lots of catchers who are on 1 knee with runners on base and/or 2 strikes.

 

And I know this because every time it happens, Buck Martinez has to comment on it and complain about what catchers are being taught because it's not the old school approach.

 

I thought maybe it was also a crutch for lesser quality catchers like Gary Sanchez but it dosn't seem like it. Realmuto does it too along with several other good defensive catchers. It's just a philosophy adopted by some teams I guess.

[John_Havok]

I will admit I'm just now learning some of the nuances of catching as my middle son wants to become a catcher - but I think there are lots of catchers who are on 1 knee with runners on base and/or 2 strikes.

 

And I know this because every time it happens, Buck Martinez has to comment on it and complain about what catchers are being taught because it's not the old school approach.

 

Buck whines about everything that wasn't in the game in 1971 like it's the worst thing since slavery. His personal observations should be taken with a carton of salt... and probably a gallon of vodka.

 

It's probably very context dependent and catcher dependent. If you're a standout defensive catcher, maybe you get away with it more because you're already awesome. The stance is mainly for lessening the energy expenditure of the catcher when you don't care if a ball gets past you, helping to avoid fatigue later in games. at least, that's been my understanding.

 

It does help "steal" strikes at the bottom of the zone as well with the upward movement of the glove.

 

Baseball America had an article on this earlier this year if i remember right. They tried to see if the 1 legged stance led to more wild pitches. Admittedly i don't remember the results.

 

also, i could have sworn Pudge, Tony Pena and a few other guys were doing this like 15-30 years ago in some situations.

Edited November 22, 2021 by John_Havok

[Jimcanuck]

Gary Carter would do it fairly frequently. One knee on the ground, the other leg straight out to the side.

[WryNGinger]

You might be trapped in 2006. One knee and starting the glove low and working 'up' to the ball is how it's taught these days for 'reasons'.

 

Oh yeah? It doesn't distract the pitcher or affect framing? (I liked the robo-ump calls in this game a lot)

[Deadpool]

Buck whines about everything that wasn't in the game in 1971 like it's the worst thing since slavery. His personal observations should be taken with a carton of salt... and probably a gallon of vodka.

 

It's probably very context dependent and catcher dependent. If you're a standout defensive catcher, maybe you get away with it more because you're already awesome. The stance is mainly for lessening the energy expenditure of the catcher when you don't care if a ball gets past you, helping to avoid fatigue later in games. at least, that's been my understanding.

 

It does help "steal" strikes at the bottom of the zone as well with the upward movement of the glove.

 

Baseball America had an article on this earlier this year if i remember right. They tried to see if the 1 legged stance led to more wild pitches. Admittedly i don't remember the results.

 

also, i could have sworn Pudge, Tony Pena and a few other guys were doing this like 15-30 years ago in some situations.

 

Sal Fassano did the "power squat" at times, depending on the count etc (I don't know when he utilized it, I just remember announcers commenting on it when he was a Jay)

[Brownie19]

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/does-one-knee-catching-actually-lead-to-more-wild-pitches/

 

I don't have access, but I suspect the answer is it doesn't lead to more wild pitches.

 

 

This video does a good job of explaining why it's done. They explain the traditional stance gives the ump a point of reference, whereas the knee down eliminates that and gives the ump a better view.