Trevor Bauer discussion thread

vaff · July 9, 2021

Michael Vick might best be compared today to Yoan Moncada rather than Mike Trout- generational tools, mediocre results

Going waaay back a good comparison might be Bo Jackson.

connorp · July 9, 2021

Look at bill cosby as to why it's hard for women to come forward not to mention, many turn on them and assume they are lying for attention, their life and sex life gets scrutinized in public...

The only ones that really get scrutinized are the ones that acted weirdly. Like with that movie producer Weinstein everyone knew he was a slimy pig and didn’t dismiss the kind of stuff he did but you didn’t feel for the girls that added their name in there but repeatedly kept coming back for more trying to still get movie parts. That’s called after-the-fact regret

L54 · July 9, 2021

ban

Those who scream the loudest

DigitalRock · July 9, 2021

Attention and money. It’s not really a phenomenon limited to rape victims. When there’s big money involved in other kinds of lawsuits… heck, even when a large reward is announced for something, thousands of people call with bogus information. That’s a fact. Humans are just s***** people, the worst of them at the very least

Stats show it is rare for it to be false accusations. Unless you have proof it happens a lot you are a part of the problem.

DigitalRock · July 9, 2021

The only ones that really get scrutinized are the ones that acted weirdly. Like with that movie producer Weinstein everyone knew he was a slimy pig and didn’t dismiss the kind of stuff he did but you didn’t feel for the girls that added their name in there but repeatedly kept coming back for more trying to still get movie parts. That’s called after-the-fact regret

I fail to believe you are this naive/ignorant..... If you accuse anyone famous your entire dirty laundry will be out and twisted...

vaff · July 10, 2021

Mookie Betts and several of his teammates have stopped following him on Instagram. I know that sounds like an “oooh, big deal” type of thing. But I think in this situation it’s pretty notable.

BTS · July 10, 2021

Mookie Betts and several of his teammates have stopped following him on Instagram. I know that sounds like an “oooh, big deal” type of thing. But I think in this situation it’s pretty notable.

Dodgers reddit says that most of those guys never followed him in the first place. Not sure which of them and the guy who tweeted about them unfollowing him is wrong.

vaff · July 10, 2021

Dodgers reddit says that most of those guys never followed him in the first place. Not sure which of them and the guy who tweeted about them unfollowing him is wrong.

Who knows. Weird situation. Just glad we’re not the ones having to deal with it.

connorp · July 10, 2021

Stats show it is rare for it to be false accusations. Unless you have proof it happens a lot you are a part of the problem.

What stats? I’m not big on stats that are flawed. How would you know how rare it is for false accusations? If you say 5-10%, that’s because it’s 10% that are proven false, right? What about all the acquittals or convictions that were false and you don’t know? Are you only using a sample size of cases where there is irrefutable third-person evidence, if so I’d listen to that stat.

Anyways, I believe a whole lot of rapes happen that don’t get reported and those are all rapes that happened. I believe it takes a ton of courage for girls to come forward, I genuinely do. I wouldn’t even object to calling it a societal problem.

However, I could also say that in cases with 9 figure bank accounts ans celebrity status, I would think the whole line becomes a lot more blurred as I understand human nature. Every case needs to be judged on its merits and nobody should be presumed innocent or guilty by anything other than the facts of THEIR case, nobody elses

connorp · July 10, 2021

I fail to believe you are this naive/ignorant..... If you accuse anyone famous your entire dirty laundry will be out and twisted...

Yeah your entire dirty laundry gets aired but not every girl continued to hang out with their rapist, flirt with them, and had sex with them again, etc

That’s the kind of stuff regular people have a hard time with

Terminator · July 10, 2021

Dodgers reddit says that most of those guys never followed him in the first place. Not sure which of them and the guy who tweeted about them unfollowing him is wrong.

Yeah and on top of it how many of those guys even run their own Instagram account. Clearly Bauer is a big instagramer bc that’s where he macks on chicks but a lot of them are run by marketing teams.

Laika · July 10, 2021

Yeah and on top of it how many of those guys even run their own Instagram account. Clearly Bauer is a big instagramer bc that’s where he macks on chicks but a lot of them are run by marketing teams.

Or like, their wife

5ToolPhenom · July 11, 2021

Bauer's pretty much exonerated after these new details broke.

A main factor of criminology boils down to whether there was premeditation or not and the fact that the girl was openly plotting against Bauer in a malicious manner (even going so far as to imply that there was a monetary angle) pretty much f***s over any chance she had at being portrayed as the victim.

Seems like a clear cut case at this point. Any move from the Dodgers to keep Bauer off the field will be for optical purposes rather than punishment for wrongdoing. I hope the team does the right thing and lets him back on the field. At worst, the sexual physicality was clearly consensual. What more can they possibly hold against the guy? Bauer's the victim in this case.

Spanky99 · July 11, 2021

Bauer's pretty much exonerated after these new details broke.

A main factor of criminology boils down to whether there was premeditation or not and the fact that the girl was openly plotting against Bauer in a malicious manner (even going so far as to imply that there was a monetary angle) pretty much f***s over any chance she had at being portrayed as the victim.

Seems like a clear cut case at this point. Any move from the Dodgers to keep Bauer off the field will be for optical purposes rather than punishment for wrongdoing. I hope the team does the right thing and lets him back on the field. At worst, the sexual physicality was clearly consensual. What more can they possibly hold against the guy? Bauer's the victim in this case.

If what her friend says, which seems true, aren't true is like how, lol... it's her own incriminating tweets. It's gotten a lot better for Bauer, recently.

5ToolPhenom · July 11, 2021

Yeah buddy, seems like the friend provided the goods and it was verified.

Whole thing seemed like a bit of a nothing burger once we saw the text messages released from Bauer's legal team. I sorta feel bad for the guy. Going to be tough to come back in the eyes of the public in this crazy culture. His own fault for being such a dumbass tho!

TBJ12 · July 13, 2021

Yeah buddy, seems like the friend provided the goods and it was verified.

Whole thing seemed like a bit of a nothing burger once we saw the text messages released from Bauer's legal team. I sorta feel bad for the guy. Going to be tough to come back in the eyes of the public in this crazy culture. His own fault for being such a dumbass tho!

He still assaulted an unconscious woman and admitted to as much over the phone in a recorded conversation. The source for these latest details is also a bit questionable to say the least.

Terminator · July 13, 2021

Or like, their wife

When the news broke, 53 year old Albert Pujols immediately logged into his Instagram account and unfollowed Bauer.

TBJ12 · July 13, 2021

Radar Online is owned by the National Enquirer. Everyone should really think on that for a minute. I'd love to find out Bauer didn't do some disgusting s*** to an unconscious woman. That isn't the reality of the situation though.

Spanky99 · July 13, 2021

When the news broke, 53 year old Albert Pujols immediately logged into his Instagram account and unfollowed Bauer.

lol

Spanky99 · July 13, 2021

He still assaulted an unconscious woman and admitted to as much over the phone in a recorded conversation. The source for these latest details is also a bit questionable to say the least.

Radar Online is owned by the National Enquirer. Everyone should really think on that for a minute. I'd love to find out Bauer didn't do some disgusting s*** to an unconscious woman. That isn't the reality of the situation though.

I remember the recorded conversation part vaguely, if he admitted to sexually assaulting this woman whilst unconscious, he'd be in the bin right now?

Spanky99 · July 13, 2021

He still assaulted an unconscious woman and admitted to as much over the phone in a recorded conversation. The source for these latest details is also a bit questionable to say the least.

Radar Online is owned by the National Enquirer. Everyone should really think on that for a minute. I'd love to find out Bauer didn't do some disgusting s*** to an unconscious woman. That isn't the reality of the situation though.

I remember the recorded conversation part vaguely, if he admitted to sexually assaulting this woman whilst unconscious, he'd be in the bin right now? You have him hung at the gallows pole.

TBJ12 · July 14, 2021

I remember the recorded conversation part vaguely, if he admitted to sexually assaulting this woman whilst unconscious, he'd be in the bin right now? You have him hung at the gallows pole.

He wouldn’t be in the bin because he’s innocent until proven guilty. I’m pretty sure the Athletic article talks about the recorded phone call with police.

TwistedLogic · July 14, 2021

AdamGreenwood · July 14, 2021

As an Eagles fan, I’ve honestly been impressed with Michael Vick ever since he left prison and signed with the Eagles. He took responsibility, he never blamed anyone, and he became a leader. I’m not surprised he’s had no issues since.

Also, Michael Vick is one of the most talented football players ever. Certainly not one of the best, but one of the most talented. Trevor Bauer is the fourth best pitcher on his own team. They’re nowhere near “equally talented”.

f*** off. Seriously. He's an absolute piece of s***. Saying sorry and not torturing any more dogs is a pretty low bar.

Let's not pretend he's a decent guy because he's good at football and hasn't been caught doing any more crimes since he want to jail.

He's a millionaire who killed and tortured dogs for amusement.

AdamGreenwood · July 14, 2021

This might be Bauer's best chance of getting out of this situation scot-free.

https://radaronline.com/p/trevor-bauer-sexual-assault-investigation-new-evidence-mlb-pasadena-police-fernando-tatis/

This looks like a job for Marie Henein.

wilko · July 15, 2021

Radar Online is owned by the National Enquirer. Everyone should really think on that for a minute. I'd love to find out Bauer didn't do some disgusting s*** to an unconscious woman. That isn't the reality of the situation though.