Official Spring Training 2021 GDT/discussion thread

[Laika]

Gameday is mislabeling SWR pitches by the way. Some of these curve labels are actually changeups. There was a cutter labelled as a slider. The change looks good

 

The slider is getting called a curve too. So it's all over the place

[Spanky__99]

SWR is going to have to get by on plus pitchability or some kind of weaponized off speed stuff because his fastball is very average. I don't see him as a high upside arm, perhaps more of a potential 4th or 5th SP like Kay and Hatch.

 

lol.... Laika Longenhagen with us today.

[Spanky__99]

SWR looked pretty good to me, he's still just 20 years old.

[Laika]

SWR is going to have to get by on plus pitchability or some kind of weaponized off speed stuff because his fastball is very average. I don't see him as a high upside arm, perhaps more of a potential 4th or 5th SP like Kay and Hatch.

 

Okay, so maybe he could be an SP3. Looks to be a strike throwing machine with a full bag of pitches. Plus command elevates the bag of mostly average stuff. But the change and curve both have some nice characteristics visually at least.

 

If he can add some Velo somehow, look out.

[Spanky__99]

Okay, so maybe he could be an SP3. Looks to be a strike throwing machine with a full bag of pitches. Plus command elevates the bag of mostly average stuff. But the change and curve both have some nice characteristics visually at least.

 

If he can add some Velo somehow, look out.

 

See, now that's what I saw. We should still see his velo tick up, as well.

[Jimcanuck]

SWR is 20, he should have a couple of ticks yet to come on the FB. Agree with Spank

[Laika]

Age alone doesn't portend to Velo increase though. He looks pretty built already

[Jimcanuck]

Age alone doesn't portend to Velo increase though. He looks pretty built already

 

Agreed but it's more probable he gets the velo increase than not.

[Spanky__99]

Age alone doesn't portend to Velo increase though. He looks pretty built already

 

Well, reports say he sat 2 mph better in the past and touched 97, it's there, hopefully.

[THANOS]

Agreed but it's more probable he gets the velo increase than not.

 

Yeah and it was reported he was up to 97 mph in the off-site last season. He's possibly still ramping up and it's more of a matter of sitting mid-90s instead of low 90s. It's definitely possible.

[THANOS]

Well, reports say he sat 2 mph better in the past and touched 97, it's there, hopefully.

 

This. Good timing lol.

[JaysAllMighty]

Monday, Mar. 15 at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT – Toronto @ Detroit – (Watch on Sportsnet)

[Spanky__99]

Kloff, yes. Been waiting to see this kid.

[Jays24]

Monday, Mar. 15 at 1 p.m. ET / 10 a.m. PT – Toronto @ Detroit – (Watch on Sportsnet)

 

Hopefully they put out a good starting unit to make it fun to watch.

[Spanky__99]

Hangy, you bangy!

[Spanky__99]

Hopefully they put out a good starting unit to make it fun to watch.

 

They'll have a few regulars and pitching. Most of the squad won't take the bus ride.

[Orgfiller]

Kloff showing a fastball with heavy sink, big curve, I think a slider on the K, and now a show-me changeup to the lefty.

[Spanky__99]

Nicely done, got a bit lucky. Stuff looks good.

[Laika]

Kloff showing a fastball with heavy sink, big curve, I think a slider on the K, and now a show-me changeup to the lefty.

 

Hard to judge much from that outing but that's definitely a fastball with run and sink. Ten years ago that would be a good thing but not sure these days.

 

93-94.8 is good. Could see him sitting like 95 later this year maybe.

[Orgfiller]

Hard to judge much from that outing but that's definitely a fastball with run and sink. Ten years ago that would be a good thing but not sure these days.

 

93-94.8 is good. Could see him sitting like 95 later this year maybe.

 

I agree. It's a very Aaron Sanchez-y package as it stands.

[Laika]

Groshans has looked pretty immature at the plate all spring. Guess hitter so far.

[Spanky__99]

CJ...

[Orgfiller]

Groshans has looked pretty immature at the plate all spring. Guess hitter so far.

 

Do you mean Martin, since Groshans didn't hit that inning?

[Laika]

Do you mean Martin, since Groshans didn't hit that inning?

 

No, Groshans. Just a stray thought I didn't post while Groshans was up

[Spanky__99]

Groshans has looked pretty immature at the plate all spring. Guess hitter so far.

 

I noticed the same, some really ugly swings, he needs a lot more time.

[Orgfiller]

No, Groshans. Just a stray thought I didn't post while Groshans was up

 

It's pretty clear the lost time has affected his development, at least his current readiness. Too young and raw to have that much time not playing competitive baseball.

[43211234]

Do you mean Martin, since Groshans didn't hit that inning?

 

Martin had a nice, patient walk. Groshans' earlier AB he was late on the fastball again and had a bad check-swing whiff on a breaking ball way outside.

[Spanky__99]

Martin had a nice, patient walk. Groshans' earlier AB he was late on the fastball again and had a bad check-swing whiff on a breaking ball way outside.

 

Yeah, that AB was fugly. There broadcast guys mentioned the same thing about him guessing.

[Orgfiller]

Van Eyck's stuff isn't bad, fastball at 93-95 (sitting 94) which has yet to be squared up, and the curve has alright movement although not sure if due to his lack of command it's not tunneling at all.

[Spanky__99]

Yeah, he's struggling bigly with command, expected as he's graded with below average command, right now.