Are we a WS contender this year?

[intentional wok]

Just one more suppository poop will do it, old guy.

 

IW's the best poster here, ya wanker!

 

Agreed

[Spanky99]

Not all WAR are created equal. That projection would just be for regular season wins.

Come playoff time 3 WAR Blake Snell becomes much more valuable than 3 WAR Cavan Biggio. Snell (or the like) changes the entire dynamic of a series. Jays will need SP help to be legit

 

You don't say ;P Poo!

[Spanky99]

Agreed

 

Hah... f***er!

[Ex Player]

you don't say ;p poo!

..................

 

k

[Spanky99]

Not all WAR are created equal. That projection would just be for regular season wins.

Come playoff time 3 WAR Blake Snell becomes much more valuable than 3 WAR Cavan Biggio. Snell (or the like) changes the entire dynamic of a series. Jays will need SP help to be legit

 

lol... connorpWAR

[connorp]

You don't say ;P Poo!

 

Not sure the distinction is a given to some.

[Spanky99]

Not sure the distinction is a given to some.

 

That's fine!

[connorp]

lol... connorpWAR

 

Common logic really. I mean if a SP say pitches 2 games in 5 days (games) and his season WAR is basically without exception based on pitching 1x every 5 days- basically you’d double the WAR value.

 

So even mathematically it changes

[Spanky99]

Common logic really. I mean if a SP say pitches 2 games in 5 days (games) and his season WAR is basically without exception based on pitching 1x every 5 days- basically you’d double the WAR value.

 

So even mathematically it changes

 

lol... do tell said math!

[Ex Player]

lol... Do tell said math!

k

 

............................

[Jays24]

Common logic really. I mean if a SP say pitches 2 games in 5 days (games) and his season WAR is basically without exception based on pitching 1x every 5 days- basically you’d double the WAR value.

 

So even mathematically it changes

 

Good point. Like Keith Law said, Biggio's WAR means nothing in the playoffs vs good starting pitching

[keggy]

lol... projections should be close, we're ranked a top 6 team. C'mon man.

 

For the record I think we're a good young team that makes the playoffs. I'm just saying a team like the Dodgers or Padres can take a giant s*** on us without one or two more stars.

[Spanky99]

For the record I think we're a good young team that makes the playoffs. I'm just saying a team like the Dodgers or Padres can take a giant s*** on us without one or two more stars.

 

It's going to happwn....

[TheHurl]

Of course they are, lol.

 

5th in baseball in projected WAR

3rd in the AL

 

That's a WS contender.... they aren't the Dodgers but the WS odds are not trivial

 

The pack is thick so they need to keep adding though

 

Fangraphs doesn't take into consideration the negative 10 wins for the manager of course.

[The Cats Ass]

Of course they are, lol.

 

5th in baseball in projected WAR

3rd in the AL

 

That's a WS contender.... they aren't the Dodgers but the WS odds are not trivial

 

The pack is thick so they need to keep adding though

 

Which are you using? Depth Charts on Fangraphs has us 4th in MLB, 2nd in the AL.

[Laika]

Which are you using? Depth Charts on Fangraphs has us 4th in MLB, 2nd in the AL.

 

Same as you. Something must have changed - maybe they updated the roster with Yates and Toronto hopped above Houston.

[G-Snarls]

Which are you using? Depth Charts on Fangraphs has us 4th in MLB, 2nd in the AL.

 

Yeah, looks like tweaks the last few days put the Jays a hair ahead of the Mets and Astros

[Olerud363]

With the adds to the team and the growth of the younger guys,are we a WS contender this year?

If not then when do you think we will be.

 

In the past if you make the playoffs it's anyone's game.

 

Right now it's hard to see the Jays having the pitching to get through multiple playoff series, but that may be different a few months from now with some development and health.

 

Stripling, Romano, Merryweather, Kay, Pearson, Kirby Yates, Ray,... who knows where these guys and a bunch of others will be early October. And who knows who else they sign or trade for. If in playoff position late July a couple of key parts for playoffs could be acquired then.

[Olerud363]

In the past if you make the playoffs it's anyone's game.

 

Right now it's hard to see the Jays having the pitching to get through multiple playoff series, but that may be different a few months from now with some development and health.

 

Stripling, Romano, Merryweather, Kay, Pearson, Kirby Yates, Ray,... who knows where these guys and a bunch of others will be early October. And who knows who else they sign or trade for. If in playoff position late July a couple of key parts for playoffs could be acquired then.

 

What I am trying to say is that in 2021 you don't need Bauer to be a world series contender. If you do have starters that can go late into playoff games that's good.

 

But you could also do it with bullpen games and stuff. So another road to being a World Series contender is that all the depth is healthy in October.

 

If Romano, Merryweather and Giles were healthy and lights out, and Ryu didn't blow up the first game even last years team could of gone far.

[The Cats Ass]

In the past if you make the playoffs it's anyone's game.

 

Right now it's hard to see the Jays having the pitching to get through multiple playoff series, but that may be different a few months from now with some development and health.

 

Stripling, Romano, Merryweather, Kay, Pearson, Kirby Yates, Ray,... who knows where these guys and a bunch of others will be early October. And who knows who else they sign or trade for. If in playoff position late July a couple of key parts for playoffs could be acquired then.

 

Pearson and Ray are two of the biggest ifs. If the Bluejays can fix Ray and he returns to having a BB/9 rate of under 4 like earlier in his career it'd be a huge boost. Pearson needs to take the next step forward.

[BigCecil]

Vlad is in shape. Hopefully the kid figures it out for the rotation. I'm sure he will. Yates deal solid.

 

The term for Springer blows but had to to get it done. I'm thrilled about it.

 

They need to keep adding pieces which they will. Arms are thin overall. Should be a hell of an exciting season and I can't wait.