Jays targeting Chad Kuhl and Trevor Williams

[King]

The Blue Jays have emerged as buyers ahead of Monday's Trade Deadline, and sources say Pirates right-handers Trevor Williams and Chad Kuhl are among the rotation upgrades they are considering

 

Woof

[Carlos Danger]

The Blue Jays have emerged as buyers ahead of Monday's Trade Deadline, and sources say Pirates right-handers Trevor Williams and Chad Kuhl are among the rotation upgrades they are considering

 

Woof

 

I like, smart, plus we have our Cherington connection and good vibes still fresh.

[glory]

It's not truly the trade deadline until Trollosi makes a completely baseless rumor just so he could hashtag #bluejays for clicks.

[Jonn]

Would prefer to aim a bit higher but the acquiring cost is cheap I’m down I guess.

[Carlos Danger]

Would prefer to aim a bit higher but the acquiring cost is cheap I’m down I guess.

 

I think if we did it with Cherington, it is going to hurt a little more. Not going to fleece him with our system. I think we could maybe go after Bundy and show some shiny objects to the Angels and come out better on the trade equity side... If you want the best pitchers, we need to go to Cleveland...

[saskjayfan]

I think if we did it with Cherington, it is going to hurt a little more. Not going to fleece him with our system. I think we could maybe go after Bundy and show some shiny objects to the Angels and come out better on the trade equity side... If you want the best pitchers, we need to go to Cleveland...

 

I tend to agree...Clevinger or Lynn. Bundy is intriguing. Has he really turned a corner. We are down to 3 starters. We need someone!

[BlueRocky]

I like, smart, plus we have our Cherington connection and good vibes still fresh.

 

True but I'd also be careful. Ben Cherington and Steve Sanders knows this farm system inside out and will likely take some really good prospects away.

[Slade]

I think if we did it with Cherington, it is going to hurt a little more. Not going to fleece him with our system. I think we could maybe go after Bundy and show some shiny objects to the Angels and come out better on the trade equity side... If you want the best pitchers, we need to go to Cleveland...

 

Ah yes the perfect team to trade with, the GM and Assistant GM spent the better part of 3 years developing and finding our talent.

 

While i mostly kid, not sure how much confidence I have in Atkins with the experience Cherington and Sanders have.

[BlueRocky]

Trevor Williams is having a better season, but it's almost like acquiring a younger Tanner Roark.

Chad Kuhl has better swing & miss stuff, both FB and secondaries have good metrics. But he hasn't quite put it all together, also returning from 2019 TJS so some injury history.

Both are under control until 2023.

 

This is like shopping for another #3/#4 starter, it's not a massive upgrade over any of our current options.

 

The deal might make sense short term, since our entire rotation has injury history.

But whether or not they're willing to pony up the prospects to get it done, what this team really needs is a front line starter.

 

Imagine going up against the Yankees in the postseason and our rotation is Ryu, Roark, Anderson. Yikes.

 

Taijuan Walker also has extensive history and a bit of a reclamation project, he's also a rental.

Unless he comes for practically free, which is doubtful, I rather not trade prospects away for a rental reclamation arm. We're not quite this desperate to shop in this aisle of the bargain store. There are internal 5th starter options in case of an emergency.

 

I'd rather have Dylan Bundy if these are our options.

1) He's under control until 2022

2) He's actually having a great season, 1.1 fWAR in 6 starts, 2.58 ERA 3.06 FIP in 38.1 IP.

3) We can use him against the Orioles and laugh at them

Edited August 25, 2020 by BlueRocky

[Carlos Danger]

Ah yes the perfect team to trade with, the GM and Assistant GM spent the better part of 3 years developing and finding our talent.

 

While i mostly kid, not sure how much confidence I have in Atkins with the experience Cherington and Sanders have.

 

Yes, I agree with your statement 100%, as to it is more dangerous and would be more costly. Hence, I prefaced my comment with exactly that.

 

The positives are the relationship and that those guys don't meet the Pirates timeline.. They can afford to move them and could add to the next wave of really good young pitchers and players coming in the Pirates system and have everyone arriving on the same timeline. Also, I don't think Pittsburgh would ask for any one off our MLB roster, which hurts long term, but is good for us short term if we want to make a playoff run.

[Laika]

True but I'd also be careful. Ben Cherington and Steve Sanders knows this farm system inside out and will likely take some really good prospects away.

 

Or they will be affected by bias and target their favourite pet prospects. This can cut both ways.