FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 I am not sure who runs this, the team in coordination with the league is my guess, but to not have a plan B already in place after the Canadian Government collapsed playing at Rogers seems almost unfathomably incompetent. Games between major league teams start this week and the Blue Jays do not have a home field to play games on. Lunacy.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 I am not sure who runs this, the team in coordination with the league is my guess, but to not have a plan B already in place after the Canadian Government collapsed playing at Rogers seems almost unfathomably incompetent. Games between major league teams start this week and the Blue Jays do not have a home field to play games on. Lunacy. They do have a plan B and C... players came to management and asked to play in an MLB park which they likely had done as well. https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/mark-shapiro-on-blue-jays-status
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 I am not sure who runs this, the team in coordination with the league is my guess, but to not have a plan B already in place after the Canadian Government collapsed playing at Rogers seems almost unfathomably incompetent. Games between major league teams start this week and the Blue Jays do not have a home field to play games on. Lunacy. If only it were that simple. Was Rogers suppose to give Buffalo’s stadium a free upgrade just incase? This isn’t a video game. s*** doesn’t work like that.
WILLIEUPSHAW Verified Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 If only it were that simple. Was Rogers suppose to give Buffalo’s stadium a free upgrade just incase? This isn’t a video game. s*** doesn’t work like that. It can't be that bad as is - they can make do for 30 games!!
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 They have a bit of extra time as the season starts on the road, but not by much. Dunedin was actually plan A because the border crossing issues were clear even a month ago. Florida became a dumpster fire, which pegged them to change spring training location back home to Toronto. Plan C is Buffalo, but the field is not ready and it’s not designed for MLB level operations due to lack of space and lighting. Plan D is New Hampshire which might not be a bad choice given the proximity to airport and hotel next to the stadium, plus low covid numbers. Plan E would be renting a third party park, there have been offers from other MiLB teams like Hartford.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 They have a bit of extra time as the season starts on the road, but not by much. Dunedin was actually plan A because the border crossing issues were clear even a month ago. Florida became a dumpster fire, which pegged them to change spring training location back home to Toronto. Plan C is Buffalo, but the field is not ready and it’s not designed for MLB level operations due to lack of space and lighting. Plan D is New Hampshire which might not be a bad choice given the proximity to airport and hotel next to the stadium, plus low covid numbers. Plan E would be renting a third party park, there have been offers from other MiLB teams like Hartford. Plan F play all "home" games as an away team and have a base for off days at any available site that has the required facilities. Plan G opt out of the season and secure the 1st pick!
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) The Pittsburgh Blue Jays! It's amazing if somehow the MLB, Pirates and Brewers would agree to move their night game to a day game on the 29th of July there isn't a scheduling conflict until Sept 8. There would be 2 series that conflict in September. Both against the Yankees. They could play those on the road. Pittsburgh is the perfect solution. Edited July 20, 2020 by saskjayfan
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted July 20, 2020 Author Posted July 20, 2020 They do have a plan B and C... players came to management and asked to play in an MLB park which they likely had done as well. https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/mark-shapiro-on-blue-jays-status Those plans were not plans because the players don't agree with them (MLBPA). If they were plans, the players would have nixxed them well before them being told they can't play at home. So they wouldn't have been mentioned. Now they're hoping one of these other teams will agree to let them play on their home field. Teams say no, then what?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Those plans were not plans because the players don't agree with them (MLBPA). If they were plans, the players would have nixxed them well before them being told they can't play at home. So they wouldn't have been mentioned. Now they're hoping one of these other teams will agree to let them play on their home field. Teams say no, then what? All will fall into place. Don't worry.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 now they are talking about sharing Camden Yards and Nationals park. I didn't realize they were so close...only 38 miles apart. Hopefully someone will let the homeless kid stay at their place.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Plan C is Buffalo, but the field is not ready and it’s not designed for MLB level operations due to lack of space and lighting. The lighting issue seems stupid to me. It's 30 games. Just make them day games.
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 now they are talking about sharing Camden Yards and Nationals park. I didn't realize they were so close...only 38 miles apart. Hopefully someone will let the homeless kid stay at their place. Plan H - Jays are on the road for 60 games, but they play the Orioles all season.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 The lighting issue seems stupid to me. It's 30 games. Just make them day games. The TV networks want night games because weekday day games are going to be less watched and less appealing to advertisers.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 Plans A, C, D, E & last but not least - F
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 If only it were that simple. Was Rogers suppose to give Buffalo’s stadium a free upgrade just incase? This isn’t a video game. s*** doesn’t work like that. No, but they could have worked out a deal with another team to share a park and had the schedule worked so that it was a viable plan B.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2020 Posted July 20, 2020 This would be a dream scenario. Not only is it a major league park, it's one of the nicest in the league.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 No, but they could have worked out a deal with another team to share a park and had the schedule worked so that it was a viable plan B. Everything suggests they were already doing that in the background but it was not something that was seriously going to be considered unless it actually became a reality. Sometimes people need to a push. I’m sure they were contacting teams for months about this possibility. And for all we know it could have been the other franchises that were saying will think about it and cross that road when we come to it. I think anyone suggesting that they just started doing this in that couple days and haven’t had these conversations before Saturday. That’s a very unintelligent person.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Those plans were not plans because the players don't agree with them (MLBPA). If they were plans, the players would have nixxed them well before them being told they can't play at home. So they wouldn't have been mentioned. Now they're hoping one of these other teams will agree to let them play on their home field. Teams say no, then what? They go to Dunedin, simple. Dude, to think they had no contingency plan is asinine.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 The TV networks want night games because weekday day games are going to be less watched and less appealing to advertisers. It's 30 games, some of which were probably day games anyway. I like the idea of Pittsburgh better, but the lighting issue seems silly. The clubhouses are more of an problem.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 It's 30 games, some of which were probably day games anyway. I like the idea of Pittsburgh better, but the lighting issue seems silly. The clubhouses are more of an problem. The number of games doesn’t matter. If anything, the fewer amount of games will make each game mean more to the networks. If the Jays are playing the Yankees, the YES Network is not going to want a 1 pm start on a Tuesday when it was originally scheduled for 7 pm. And night games in Buffalo that ruin the TV experience would make it pointless. They’d either have to fix the lights or use another big league park. I say just use Washington for the home opener since they are there anyway, but after that if Pittsburgh is available that would be a no brainer.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Okay so if the Jays are going to play in Pittsburgh, can they also get a Central region schedule and go 47-13?
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Okay so if the Jays are going to play in Pittsburgh, can they also get a Central region schedule and go 47-13? Yes, swap them with the Twins for the year, lol.
FrozenRopes Verified Member Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 This would be a dream scenario. Not only is it a major league park, it's one of the nicest in the league. Absolutely, if you seen a game live there it is definitely top 5.
BlueRocky Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) PNC park: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-l1A02Po6YFx2MUDF5LXH_MdIgo=/0x0:900x600/1520x0/filters:focal(0x0:900x600):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19592246/PNCbirdseye.jpg Edited July 21, 2020 by BlueRocky
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Absolutely, if you seen a game live there it is definitely top 5. Best in the League.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 f*** - what an incredible view. PNC, Camden...those are what baseball stadiums are meant to look like. I was planning to take my boys to see the Jays in PNC this year...f***ing COVID
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 f*** - what an incredible view. PNC, Camden...those are what baseball stadiums are meant to look like. I was planning to take my boys to see the Jays in PNC this year...f***ing COVID Wait till we see our OF in that park, lol.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 I agree, PNC is beautiful and Pittsburgh is a great area. Once the Jays players play at PNC regularly, they are going to hate the concrete Dome.
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