GDT: Royals @ Blue Jays (Game 3 of 4) June 30th 13:07 EST

[Abomination]

Yeah I think so and that is affecting the movement on the 2-seamer - no longer the dynamic pitch it once was.

 

The movement is pretty similar. He's getting slightly less sink, but I suspect that has more to do with control (getting the ball up too much) rather than anything else. The only pitch that really shows a noticeable difference is his curve, which is sharper than it has been in the past (I'm not sure if that's a good thing given his control).

 

He really just needs to find a way to get his control back to slightly below average without getting blisters.

 

I kind of think a move to the pen might be worse for his finger. It might be time to abandon the sinker.

[Abomination]

I don’t know if we should have expected a better return for Pillar. But so far that trade has really f***ing sucked

 

Pillar has put up a 65 wRC+ with negative fielding this year. He's basically Ryan Goins.

[Spanky99]

Great play by Maile.

[Orgfiller]

Maile played that like a stud.

[Barkerfan23]

Kansas city

Is so bad

[Jonn]

When great base running turns into terrible base running.

[bones10]

Can we get a vlad pinch hit please

[Jonn]

Pillar has put up a 65 wRC+ with negative fielding this year. He's basically Ryan Goins.

 

Oh I know Pillar sucks. I just thought we could get a little something interesting.

[Barkerfan23]

Did you guys know 50 cent threw out first pitch ag a mets game in 2017

 

Mlb tv reminds me every inning

 

50 cent you know that washed up rapper who had a hit 15 years ago

[Spanky99]

I don’t know if we should have expected a better return for Pillar. But so far that trade has really f***ing sucked

 

Pillar's been bad and the main piece was De Paula, hasn't been bad at all.

[Jonn]

I’m surprised Montoyo didn’t rest Vlad on Canada Day.

[wk680]

The movement is pretty similar. He's getting slightly less sink, but I suspect that has more to do with control (getting the ball up too much) rather than anything else. The only pitch that really shows a noticeable difference is his curve, which is sharper than it has been in the past (I'm not sure if that's a good thing given his control).

 

He really just needs to find a way to get his control back to slightly below average without getting blisters.

 

I kind of think a move to the pen might be worse for his finger. It might be time to abandon the sinker.

 

Yeah max effort on the sinker is what could very easily lead that finger to flare up (assuming he uses the same grip as before). He may need to 'reinvent' himself, by as you said, abandoning the sinker and maybe replace with a cutter while depending mostly on the 4SFB and CB.

[Jonn]

Pillar's been bad and the main piece was De Paula, hasn't been bad at all.

 

De Paula is nothing Spanks

[Ex Player]

De Paula, hasn't been bad at all

De Paula has been having a terrible 2019 so far at A-and Rookie ball

[Orgfiller]

Great job Vladdy.

[Abomination]

Yeah max effort on the sinker is what could very easily lead that finger to flare up (assuming he uses the same grip as before). He may need to 'reinvent' himself, by as you said, abandoning the sinker and maybe replace with a cutter while depending mostly on the 4SFB and CB.

 

I'd like to see him move to a 4-seamer, curve, and splitter. I think that combo, with his velocity, would be quite effective.

[Spanky99]

The movement is pretty similar. He's getting slightly less sink, but I suspect that has more to do with control (getting the ball up too much) rather than anything else. The only pitch that really shows a noticeable difference is his curve, which is sharper than it has been in the past (I'm not sure if that's a good thing given his control).

 

He really just needs to find a way to get his control back to slightly below average without getting blisters.

 

I kind of think a move to the pen might be worse for his finger. It might be time to abandon the sinker.

 

Why would a move to the pen be worse for his finger? They just need him to pitch 4SM fastballs and the curve.

 

Edit: NVM... you just said it.

[Orgfiller]

I'd like to see him move to a 4-seamer, curve, and splitter. I think that combo, with his velocity, would be quite effective.

 

Nothing of his will be effective if he can't fix his command.

[Abomination]

How not to bunt - brought to you by Luke Maile.

 

edited: much better that attempt.

[Jonn]

Surprised Montoyo is letting the fatty run.

[Barkerfan23]

Buntoyo

[Orgfiller]

How not to bunt - brought to you by Luke Maile.

 

edited: much better that attempt.

 

Seriously lol, like you're a terrible hitter man, you better know how to drop one down on cue. Luckily he got it done.

[Jonn]

Kennedy about to Smoak some Cock.

[Abomination]

Nothing of his will be effective if he can't fix his command.

 

That's why I want to see him reduce the movement on the fastball. Get people off it via the splitter rather than extreme movement.

[Orgfiller]

That's why I want to see him reduce the movement on the fastball. Get people off it via the splitter rather than extreme movement.

 

His problem isn't the movement, if he doesn't know where the ball is going then it's not going to make a difference by focusing on a 4-seam heavy approach. He's just not a good pitcher.

[Spanky99]

De Paula is nothing Spanks

 

He was the lottery ticket and Toronto shed Pillar's contract, it wasn't a bad trade is all I'm saying. We'll see about JDP

[Spanky99]

Ball game... Sanchez sucks!

[Barkerfan23]

Sanchez should get minus 1 war for this game

[Ex Player]

3 out 4 then tomorrow

[Jonn]

He was the lottery ticket and Toronto shed Pillar's contract, it wasn't a bad trade is all I'm saying. We'll see about JDP

 

Shedding Pillar’s salary was the least of anyone’s problem Spanks. Not really concerned with Rogers saving money lol.