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What a complicated F'n deal:

 

The Excel Sports client will reportedly be guaranteed $10.5MM and secure a player option for the 2021 season in addition to a vesting player option for the 2022 campaign.

 

The contract is said to promise Betances a $7.5MM salary in 2020, and his player option is valued at $6MM with a $3MM buyout. However, he’ll have the opportunity to boost the value of that option and the potential 2022 option as well.

 

Specifically, the value of the 2020 option will escalate by $800K when Betances pitches in his 40th game in 2020. It’ll increase by an additional $1MM upon reaching each of 50, 60 and 70 games. As for the second player option, it would vest if Betances exercises the first player option and then appears in 50 games in 2021 — but only at a $1MM base. If Betances appears in 60 games, that base would jump to $2MM (with a $1MM buyout). It’d further increase to $3MM ($1MM buyout) by appearing in 70 games in 2021.

 

 

Sam Haggardy DFA

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Carlos Beltran has multiple incentive-based player contracts to deal with all of a sudden. That can't be pleasant, especially for a first year manager.
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What a complicated F'n deal:

 

The Excel Sports client will reportedly be guaranteed $10.5MM and secure a player option for the 2021 season in addition to a vesting player option for the 2022 campaign.

 

The contract is said to promise Betances a $7.5MM salary in 2020, and his player option is valued at $6MM with a $3MM buyout. However, he’ll have the opportunity to boost the value of that option and the potential 2022 option as well.

 

Specifically, the value of the 2020 option will escalate by $800K when Betances pitches in his 40th game in 2020. It’ll increase by an additional $1MM upon reaching each of 50, 60 and 70 games. As for the second player option, it would vest if Betances exercises the first player option and then appears in 50 games in 2021 — but only at a $1MM base. If Betances appears in 60 games, that base would jump to $2MM (with a $1MM buyout). It’d further increase to $3MM ($1MM buyout) by appearing in 70 games in 2021.

 

 

Sam Haggardy DFA

 

So that 3rd year is worth a max 3 million and only vests if he plays 50 games. He probably only exercises it if he falls off a cliff performance wise

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If Diaz, Familia and Betances are all somehow magically able to regain their past forms at the same time, and Lugo continues as he has, then that’d be a killer ‘pen for sure... Big if though.
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So that 3rd year is worth a max 3 million and only vests if he plays 50 games. He probably only exercises it if he falls off a cliff performance wise

 

That's pretty risky for a reliever. I'm glad the Jays took a pass. There are better ways to spend the money.

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Eddie going to CWS. Which I think I like because I have a feeling we're sniffing around the remaining outfield bats and this move possibly eliminates a suitor.

 

Kinda glad that EE is signing elsewhere. I'm really not a fan of DH only guys. Yes, you can stick him at 1B but he's not good there.

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I would have taken Edwin at that price but I understand the team passing. They can probably get a player of similar use for notably less than $12M

 

I mean Calhoun’s deal is a lower AAV and he’s a better player. Theoretically Toronto for $12M in AAV could get a bat and a good reliever or even two decent relievers

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I'd love Edwin for that kind of money, he is one of the few guys I think would be worth bringing aboard for his mentoring ability on top of the quality bat. I shudder to think back to the veteran presence garbage waste of roster spots prior Jays teams had employed. Guys like Mark Derosa and Omar Vizquel, guys who were too old and broken down to add any actual value on the field. But with Edwin it would be different, he shares so many similarities with Vladdy Jr. it's crazy. Poor defensive 3rd baseman, eventually had to move to 1st base/DH, high walk rate/low k rate etc. etc. Having Edwin around to mentor the latin players (Teoscar, Gurriel, Vladdy Jr.) as well as the rest of the youngsters would be huge.
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I'd love Edwin for that kind of money, he is one of the few guys I think would be worth bringing aboard for his mentoring ability on top of the quality bat. I shudder to think back to the veteran presence garbage waste of roster spots prior Jays teams had employed. Guys like Mark Derosa and Omar Vizquel, guys who were too old and broken down to add any actual value on the field. But with Edwin it would be different, he shares so many similarities with Vladdy Jr. it's crazy. Poor defensive 3rd baseman, eventually had to move to 1st base/DH, high walk rate/low k rate etc. etc. Having Edwin around to mentor the latin players (Teoscar, Gurriel, Vladdy Jr.) as well as the rest of the youngsters would be huge.

 

I generally agree but I don't think Toronto would care about Vlad being mentored by a guy who, uh, couldn't handle third base. Kind of the opposite of what they would want.

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I generally agree but I don't think Toronto would care about Vlad being mentored by a guy who, uh, couldn't handle third base. Kind of the opposite of what they would want.

 

Obviously I'm not advocating that Vladdy Jr. learn how to not play 3rd base from Edwin, but Edwin would likely be a huge resource in helping Vladdy with his pre-game and at bat preparation. I recall Edwin has taught others how to effectively watch film to fully prepare for their at-bats, he would sort of serve as a bit of a player coach in that regard.

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Potential White Sox lineup for next season:

 

1. Nick Madrigal

2. Yoan Moncada

3. Eloy Jimenez

4. Edwin Encarnacion

5. Jose Abreu

6. Yasmani Grandal

7. Luis Robert

8. Tim Anderson

9. Nomar Mazara

 

Mazara isn't that good, but having him in the 9th spot isn't bad.

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He'd run circles around you, seriously.

 

Boomer lol... how old are you?

 

Run circles around me like a gibbering idiot or a hungry dog? Yeah, that checks out. Are you two lovers or something? No judging. Serious question.

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Run circles around me like a gibbering idiot or a hungry dog? Yeah, that checks out. Are you two lovers or something? No judging. Serious question.

 

Wow.

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Run circles around me like a gibbering idiot or a hungry dog? Yeah, that checks out. Are you two lovers or something? No judging. Serious question.

 

Can’t the mods just ban Saskatchewan from posting...

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SJF2 making an unprecedented push for Most Annoying Poster of the year award with less than a week left in the season
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Damn, that's a great pickup, "IF" he stays healthy.

 

That's something he's never been able to do and his defense makes him almost replacement level. I'm happy to roll with our internal options at that price.

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That's something he's never been able to do and his defense makes him almost replacement level. I'm happy to roll with our internal options at that price.

 

Who even knows what his defense looks like going forward though, he's only one season removed from an absolute monster gold glove level season. There is certainly potential there for at least solid left field play.

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