General 2019 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[Barkerfan23]

Primarily a DH, below avg D... He would need a few more big years Imo.

 

Any 500 home run hitters ( peds excluded) not in the hof

[glory]

Teoscar has been good since coming back from AAA. wRC+ over 120 and 1.0 WAR. But yeah they have DH open so as long as Buntoyo doesn’t force Galvis and Smoak into the lineup everyday because vetrin, there will be playing time to be had. They really needed to trade Smoak and Galvis, especially Smoak who is a FA and will want to play for a contract.

[Terminator]

Teoscar has been good since coming back from AAA. wRC+ over 120 and 1.0 WAR. But yeah they have DH open so as long as Buntoyo doesn’t force Galvis and Smoak into the lineup everyday because vetrin, there will be playing time to be had. They really needed to trade Smoak and Galvis, especially Smoak who is a FA and will want to play for a contract.

 

Just quit playing McKinney and Drury altogether and move Galvis to the bench and it should be fine.

[Abomination]

Good point, makes sense. Not sure where that leaves Galvis though

 

They'll probably rotate him around the infield. As much as people complain about it, there's nothing wrong with giving the young guys one or two days off a week late in the season.

[Angrioter]

Question

 

What would Edwin Encarnacion have to do from this point to become a hall of famer. He would definitely go in as a Bluejay. Is it just the matter of hitting 90 homeruns?

He needs a new career

[Krylian]

Trip in traffic.

 

Ladies first

[Grant77]

“the Twins were disappointed when Toronto didn’t give them a chance to match an offer they believed they could have outdone.” (for Stroman).

 

Apparently we just jumped on the first offer from the Mets without circling back to other teams.

[Abomination]

“the Twins were disappointed when Toronto didn’t give them a chance to match an offer they believed they could have outdone.” (for Stroman).

 

Apparently we just jumped on the first offer from the Mets without circling back to other teams.

 

We don't know what the truth is. Atkins said he circled back to all the teams, but maybe the Twins were ruled out before that due to a s*** offer or something. Who knows who's telling the truth.

[DigitalRock]

Cliff Floyd is bad.

[Krylian]

We don't know what the truth is. Atkins said he circled back to all the teams, but maybe the Twins were ruled out before that due to a s*** offer or something. Who knows who's telling the truth.

 

Truth is they're all a bunch of ****s lying and fabricating ******** so they don't look like buffoons to their fanbases and owners.

[AintNoThang]

We don't know what the truth is. Atkins said he circled back to all the teams, but maybe the Twins were ruled out before that due to a s*** offer or something. Who knows who's telling the truth.

 

Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. I think the Jays called and they Twins wouldn't move, so the Jays called their bluff, and now the Twins are trying to save face. Atkins said he went back to all teams that we're interested. I'd rather trust the word of a GM, who would benefit most by doing his due diligence when it comes to the trade, than a team who's taking a lot of heat for not making a big move.

[Grant77]

Trent Thornton looks like Justin Smoak when he doesn't wear glasses.

[Praxis]

Yeah, I don't believe that for a second. I think the Jays called and they Twins wouldn't move, so the Jays called their bluff, and now the Twins are trying to save face. Atkins said he went back to all teams that we're interested. I'd rather trust the word of a GM, who would benefit most by doing his due diligence when it comes to the trade, than a team who's taking a lot of heat for not making a big move.

 

So just to be clear on Sunday - three days before the deadline - Atkins "called the bluff" of the Twins rather than waiting until closer to the actual cut off time. He then got utterly hosed by the Mets according to just about everyone within MLB and this somehow makes it OK?

 

When are some on this forum going to face reality: Atkins had a poor to atrocious trade deadline. Period. All this argument proves is the utter incompetence of a front office who panicked rather than realizing that Minnesota (or any other team for that matter) were hardly likely to put up their best offer 72 hours before the deadline.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Praxis

[Krylian]

So just to be clear on Sunday - three days before the deadline - Atkins "called the bluff" of the Twins rather than waiting until closer to the actual cut off time. He then got utterly hosed by the Mets according to just about everyone within MLB and this somehow makes it OK?

 

When are some on this forum going to face reality: Atkins had a poor to atrocious trade deadline. Period.

 

Atkins said he checked back in with everyone. You don't know what the truth is and neither do I. Atkins may have f***ed the Stroman deal up...or... Minny might be lying about it cause they got nothing done and are now under the gun.

[Angrioter]

I need help.

 

I want the link to see pitching count, movement, swing miss and other pitching stuff. I'm on my phone and don't want to turn on my laptop

[BillyTheKid]

Fisher

Hernandez

Grichuk

McKinney

Hanson

Brito

 

Can we compile more s***** outfielders and give them everyday playing time?

[Krylian]

Fisher

Hernandez

Grichuk

McKinney

Hanson

Brito

 

Can we compile more s***** outfielders and give them everyday playing time?

 

Don't forget about Drury, our super utility weapon.

[BillyTheKid]

In all honesty, the future of this offense looks bright, no thanks to upper management who seems to be doing their best to add nothing to it.

[Spanky99]

I need help.

 

I want the link to see pitching count, movement, swing miss and other pitching stuff. I'm on my phone and don't want to turn on my laptop

 

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/

 

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/

[Deadpool]

In all honesty, the future of this offense looks bright, no thanks to upper management who seems to be doing their best to add nothing to it.

 

Except for acquiring all of the pieces that make the offence look bright?

[BillyTheKid]

Except for acquiring all of the pieces that make the offence look bright?

 

All? Of the core guys Jansen, Guerrero, Biggio were not signed/drafted by current management.

 

What a terrible post.

[Orgfiller]

All? Of the core guys Jansen, Guerrero, Biggio were not signed/drafted by current management.

 

What a terrible post.

 

Biggio was most certainly drafted by this front office group. I'll give the previous regime the credit for drafting Danny Jansen, but it's rather interesting that he only started being a good asset in 2017, when the current FO was firmly in charge of player development.

 

Come on bro, at least do your research if you're going to call someone out.

[Laika]

Mannnn people just do not realize how special the Blue Jays' core of position players is for this point in the rebuild.

 

In 2018 the team was at least half-heartedly trying to compete. The pure rebuild wasn't initiated until mid-2018.

 

Now, mid-2019, ONE YEAR LATER, the MLB roster has Vlad, Bo, Biggio, Gurriel, and Jansen. These guys have accumulated ~5 WAR in less than 1200 combined PA. In other words, they average out to be league average bats or better, as babies/rookies (crazy).

 

This is the most accelerated rebuild one could imagine. And that core is surrounded predominately by cheap-as-hell players in their 20s, some of which have upside.

 

Blue Jays fans should be leaving offerings at the Rogers Centre to appease their gods and saviors, Shapiro and Atkins.

[Spanky99]

[Barkerfan23]

In many ways Atkins will live and die with Derek Fisher. He might not be the GM when Pearson and SWR are in their prime

[Jonn]

If Fisher is anything more than AAAA guy or decent 4th OF option I would be pleasantly surprised. Not expecting much of anything. Its hard to see him playing everyday because whose at-bats is he taking. Teo looks like he was starting to turn it around and we unfortunately have to play Grichuk because he got paid. For now he can get some at-bats with LGJ and Grichuk potentially out with minor injuries.

[Barkerfan23]

I think the DH slot will be used for atbat. The org has seen enough of Tellez to know what he is

[Thaddeus Malice]

I can't take any quotes about guys we've just acquired or traded for seriously after being told by Atkins that Socrates Brito has incredible upside and potential. It's all meaningless blather.

[Brownie19]

If Fisher is anything more than AAAA guy or decent 4th OF option I would be pleasantly surprised. Not expecting much of anything. Its hard to see him playing everyday because whose at-bats is he taking. Teo looks like he was starting to turn it around and we unfortunately have to play Grichuk because he got paid. For now he can get some at-bats with LGJ and Grichuk potentially out with minor injuries.

 

I think the DH slot will be used for atbat. The org has seen enough of Tellez to know what he is

 

Christ Jonn - even Barkerfan knows the answer to your question. You're so enraged with these trades you're not thinking straight.

[Brownie19]

I can't take any quotes about guys we've just acquired or traded for seriously after being told by Atkins that Socrates Brito has incredible upside and potential. It's all meaningless blather.

 

Of course it is. It all is. Almost everything you hear from any front office, reporters or industry experts is ********. f***, most the s*** on here is too. You haven't been drinking the kool-aid have you?