Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball

[King]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

[jays4life19]

Hi Tercet

[Krylian]

Agree 100%.

 

Lard ass Vladdy Jr. is gonna get hurt early into the season and will basically be in and out of the lineup, performing poorly, for the majority of his career.

 

The Jays need to deal him now while his value is high.

[tercet]

Nope, even I approve of him.

[jaysblue]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

 

Dinger won't like this.

[flafson]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

 

If you replace the name Vlad with Bryce Harper, I completely agree.

 

Can't believe MLBTR project him to receive 14 years and 420M...

[Dr. Dinger]

Dinger won't like this.

 

I don’t mind seeing posters embarass themselves. It’s entertaining.

[John_Havok]

If you replace the name Vlad with Bryce Harper, I completely agree.

 

Can't believe MLBTR project him to receive 14 years and 420M...

 

I think it's only unreasonable now because FOs have become wiser about paying athletes into their mid and late 30s.

 

10/350 is probably where he starts though. Then it will just be a matter of teams trying to 1 up each other with either higher AAV, deferred money, extra years or whatever.

 

Ditto Machado.

 

Top tier FAs in their physical prime that still project to provide massive value for 7+ years aren't as scary as signing a 33 yo Donaldson to a long term deal

[G-Snarls]

I think it's only unreasonable now because FOs have become wiser about paying athletes into their mid and late 30s.

 

10/350 is probably where he starts though. Then it will just be a matter of teams trying to 1 up each other with either higher AAV, deferred money, extra years or whatever.

 

Ditto Machado.

 

Top tier FAs in their physical prime that still project to provide massive value for 7+ years aren't as scary as signing a 33 yo Donaldson to a long term deal

 

Exactly

 

Machado and Harper are free agents at 26/27, unusually young for superstar players entering free agency so it's a rare opportunity for teams. You're buying what should be some of their absolute best years.

 

Teams aren't scared of giving 10 years to them or via extensions to the Trouts and Stantons when those deals happened. They just don't give long term deals to guys 32/33+ anymore. Which is obviously smart.

Edited November 4, 2018 by G-Snarls

[FrozenRopes]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

 

Over/Under

 

.280 career BA

300 hrs

1,500 RBIs

[BTS]

Over/Under

 

.280 career BA

300 hrs

1,500 RBIs

 

This reminds me. That ******* GD owes me like $20 on a bet we made about Eric Stults' career like 5 years ago.

[Spanky99]

This reminds me. That ******* GD owes me like $20 on a bet we made about Eric Stults' career like 5 years ago.

 

lol... this thread keeps getting more f***ed!

[Krylian]

Over/Under

 

.280 career BA

300 hrs

1,500 RBIs

 

I think he'll have that before he's 25

[Spanky99]

Thread is satire guys... just saying.

[Krylian]

Thread is satire guys... just saying.

 

I think everyone gets that

[baseballsss]

This reminds me. That ******* GD owes me like $20 on a bet we made about Eric Stults' career like 5 years ago.

 

What happened to that guy? does fatcow still post here to?

[jimedmonds]

he's not overrated, but he's definitely no Jim Edmonds.

[Angrioter]

Big ass players always fail

[Boxcar]

Thread is satire guys... just saying.

 

Thanks Spanky. 100% of people reading this thread prior to your comment believed that Yangervis Solarte was a legitimate comp for Vlad.

[Olerud363]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

 

Interesting stuff. Who will be better Cavan Biggio or Vlad?? I heard from one of my sources that have watched Cavan Biggio that he MISSED several cookie cutter fastballs.

 

Vald Guerrero Jr. - Crushes ONLY cookie cutter fastballs

Cavan Biggio - MISSES cookie cutter fastballs.

 

LOGIC - a system of thinking which one thing follows another

 

Cavan Biggio has hit homeruns

Vlad Guerrero Jr. has hit homeruns

 

If Cavan Biggio MISSES cookie cutter fastballs, and IF he has hit home runs then logically he has hit the homeruns off of quality pitches.

If Vlad Guerrero jr HAMMERS cookie cutter fastballs, THEN he probably misses quality pitches.

 

Using logic and the scouting reports this screams PLATOON. Given one is lefthanded and one is right handed I think a platoon is in order where biggio faces mostly hard throwing right handers (Biggio misses COOKIE CUTTERS thus needs hard throwers) and Vald faces all lefties and right handed soft tossers (Vlad hammers cookies).

 

Each get approximately half the playing time (as opposed to straight platoon where the lefty get 2/3 the playing time)

 

final number

 

Cavan 100 games played 314 at bats, .244 .355 .455 21 homers (off of hard fastballs)

Vlad 103 games played 356 at bats .288 .370 19 homers (off of cookies)

 

Together they are a decent platoon and may eventualy exceed the Mullinicks Garth Iorg platoon

 

Using logic and the expert scouting reports we have on the board (real people seeing the players and understanding the pitches they can hit) we can design solutions to addresses the weaknesses.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Facts

- Vlad has never had to put an effort into baseball at any level. Daddys Genes and money can only get you so far. He is going to be in for a rude awakening when he gets to the MLB and he has to make adjustments for once.

- His defense is absolute garbage, which will destroy any value he produces with bat. Seriously, his footwork at 3B is terrible and his throwing arm is horribly inaccurate.

- His power is not even close to an 80. Real power prospects like Joey Gallo put up ISO's of .400 while fake power prospects like Vlad barely get over .200. Most of his home runs were off cookie cutter fastballs and get me over sliders, he can only hit mistake pitches.

- He's fat and needs to lay off the ice cream.

 

Therre is a reason Shatkins kept him in the minors all of 2018, and it's not because of service time. They were keeping him in the minors to suppress his trade value, I wouldn't be surprised if they traded him this offseason. It would be smart as his value will likely never be higher.

 

My comp for Vlad: Yangervis Solarte

 

 

 

Vlad is the most OVERRATED prospect in baseball.

 

Trade Vladdy for the rights to Travis Snider!!

[Jimcanuck]

You *******s have deflated my perma-boner.

[Spanky99]

Thanks Spanky. 100% of people reading this thread prior to your comment believed that Yangervis Solarte was a legitimate comp for Vlad.

 

You are very welcome, Boxbike!

[FrozenRopes]

Thanks Spanky. 100% of people reading this thread prior to your comment believed that Yangervis Solarte was a legitimate comp for Vlad.

 

What happens if VGJR doesn't pan out and this really becomes true?

[Deadpool]

What happens if VGJR doesn't pan out and this really becomes true?

 

We all grow goatees and just accept that this is the darkest timeline?

[Carlos Danger]

You *******s have deflated my perma-boner.

 

I thought that had already happened when Trudeau was accused of sexual assault..?

[BTS]

You *******s have deflated my perma-boner.

 

That’s just your age Jim

[BTS]

I thought that had already happened when Trudeau was accused of sexual assault..?

 

If you *******s get in a political debate in the main I’m gonna start dropping 24-hour bans, even if this is a s*** thread.

[Carlos Danger]

If you *******s get in a political debate in the main I’m gonna start dropping 24-hour bans, even if this is a s*** thread.

 

Don't worry, we have plenty of politics dialog over in the political thread and we will keep it there. I was just commenting about Jim's self-admitted erectile dysfunction. Although I admit maybe that should be over in the health section.

[wilko]

If you *******s get in a political debate in the main I’m gonna start dropping 24-hour bans, even if this is a s*** thread.

 

Investigate 311!