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8/13 Blue Jays @ Royals - Debut of Ten Straight Balls and Jansen 8:15 PM ET


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"Glen" Giles is going to be good trade bait next year.

 

Preferably after his All-Star first half.

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Giles looked nasty tonight.

 

Gotta feel great for Jansen. How awesome would it be to see this guy develop into a good, young starting catcher?

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That slider is f***ing filth.

 

Who said that Giles shouldn't throw it?

 

Not surprised.

 

Because I said Giles should have challenged Betts with an upper 90's fastball on a 3-2 count up by four runs with two out in the bottom of the ninth turns into you guys prefabricating the notion that I mean he should never throw his slider?

 

Have ad it losers.

 

That means you too Org the gorg.

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Will this forum ever learn to stop scouting the stats line?

 

Giles had several mistakes vs Gordon, but luckily Gordon is a terrible hitter now and missed the cookies.

 

Last week Giles had a bunch of mistakes vs the Red Sox and they hit them far.

 

But beisbol is weird, pitchers can make mistakes and get away with them with good results.

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Will this forum ever learn to stop scouting the stats line?

 

Giles had several mistakes vs Gordon, but luckily Gordon is a terrible hitter now and missed the cookies.

 

Last week Giles had a bunch of mistakes vs the Red Sox and they hit them far.

 

But beisbol is weird, pitchers can make mistakes and get away with them with good results.

 

So we shouldn't look at stat lines, rather look at every single pitch throughout entire seasons, if not careers to judge a pitcher performance truly as you do.

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So we shouldn't look at stat lines, rather look at every single pitch throughout entire seasons, if not careers to judge a pitcher performance truly as you do.

 

Don't be silly. Don't look at every single pitch. Just watch a guy for a few pitches you'll be able to tell right away what he is.

 

Tercet is full of s***. He's dissing averigish prospects and pretending he's a guru.

 

He's got a win/win con job going. He's dissing guys the stats say have weakness. The stats say Reid Foley will have a 4ish era. The stats say Teoscar Hernandez will hit .240 .300 .450. If these guys do what the stats say, Tercet "wins" because he can claim he saw it coming.

 

If Tercet is such a genius why isn't he telling us which prospects are going to overperform?? If stats don't mean anything then logically there should be guys with bad stats, who Tercet can pick out who are actually good.

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Don't be silly. Don't look at every single pitch. Just watch a guy for a few pitches you'll be able to tell right away what he is.

 

Tercet is full of s***. He's dissing averigish prospects and pretending he's a guru.

 

He's got a win/win con job going. He's dissing guys the stats say have weakness. The stats say Reid Foley will have a 4ish era. The stats say Teoscar Hernandez will hit .240 .300 .450. If these guys do what the stats say, Tercet "wins" because he can claim he saw it coming.

 

If Tercet is such a genius why isn't he telling us which prospects are going to overperform?? If stats don't mean anything then logically there should be guys with bad stats, who Tercet can pick out who are actually good.

 

Wut?

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Will this forum ever learn to stop scouting the stats line?

 

Giles had several mistakes vs Gordon, but luckily Gordon is a terrible hitter now and missed the cookies.

 

Last week Giles had a bunch of mistakes vs the Red Sox and they hit them far.

 

But beisbol is weird, pitchers can make mistakes and get away with them with good results.

 

Was it Gordon where Giles threw the slider up in the zone early in the count? I think that was not a 'mistake' but by design, because it is not as expected (just as Estrada throws the odd changeup high in the zone). Anyway, seems just 'save' Giles for save situations and all will be good (if only it was that simple :) )

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Was it Gordon where Giles threw the slider up in the zone early in the count? I think that was not a 'mistake' but by design, because it is not as expected (just as Estrada throws the odd changeup high in the zone). Anyway, seems just 'save' Giles for save situations and all will be good (if only it was that simple :) )

 

Off hand I believe it was the third pitch of the at-bat, Jansen set up down and away, but the slider ended up being pretty much middle/middle and Gordon got mixed up it seems and didn't swing.

 

Look pitchers make mistakes, with Giles stuff he has a higher margin of error, but just try not to throw middle-middle sliders.

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Don't be silly. Don't look at every single pitch. Just watch a guy for a few pitches you'll be able to tell right away what he is.

 

Tercet is full of s***. He's dissing averigish prospects and pretending he's a guru.

 

He's got a win/win con job going. He's dissing guys the stats say have weakness. The stats say Reid Foley will have a 4ish era. The stats say Teoscar Hernandez will hit .240 .300 .450. If these guys do what the stats say, Tercet "wins" because he can claim he saw it coming.

 

If Tercet is such a genius why isn't he telling us which prospects are going to overperform?? If stats don't mean anything then logically there should be guys with bad stats, who Tercet can pick out who are actually good.

 

Common sense says SRF will have an ERA over 4, lock of the century. How much do you want to bet that he wont?

 

Let me think for a minute who will overperform. (no clue u win)

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The average jays fan sees SRF 3 era in AA/AAA with lots of strikeouts and think it will magically mean that he will be good in the majors.

 

If I had to guess > 75% of Jays FO/scouts understand that SRF will more then likely get his face melted this year in the majors due to all of his flaws. The hope is with repetition and some tweaks he would become a good pitcher in due time, but not in 2018.

 

I say that SRF will get his face melted and so much love from the casual baseball fans/idiots lol.

 

How can we teach casual baseball fans?Getting Buck and Tabby off the air is a start right?

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Josh Donaldson was actually mentioned on the broadcast. Sometimes I forget hes even alive.

 

I forgot all about him and Tulo, everytime I hear their names I remember they are still Jays.

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1. Curtis Granderson (L) DH

2. Randal Grichuk ® RF

3. Justin Smoak (S) 1B

4. Teoscar Hernandez ® LF

5. Russell Martin ® 3B

6. Kevin Pillar ® CF

7. Aledmys Diaz ® SS

8. Luke Maile ® C

9. Richard Urena (S) 2B

 

Estrada on the bump...

 

1. Whit Merrifield ® DH

2. Alex Gordon (L) LF

3. Salvador Perez ® C

4. Lucas Duda (L) 1B

5. Rosell Herrera (S) 2B

6. Jorge Bonifacio ® RF

7. Brett Phillips (L) CF

8. Alcides Escobar ® 3B

9. Adalberto Mondesi (S) SS

 

Lopez on the bump...

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I assume Rivera has no clue how strong Phillips arm is, lol.

 

Fact of the matter is that the Jays had lead off doubles in two out of the three innings that were followed by empty AB's. Horrible execution by professional ball players.

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Fact of the matter is that the Jays had lead off doubles in two out of the three innings that were followed by empty AB's. Horrible execution by professional ball players.

 

:confused: Pillar's RBI single, and he just did it again, Urena tossed out at the plate on a basehit?

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