5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Posted May 13, 2018 I'm generally a Gibby fan, but this year some of the lineup management has been a bit weird and I feel like he's not giving the team the best chance to win. I notice he'll start a lot of backups in clusters whereas I think he'd be better suited to spread them out a bit when giving guys a day off. Some of his batting orders have been puzzling as well. He seems to make the lineups based on the "hot" hand as opposed to basing things off of the statistical probability. It's early in the season of course and I've definitely seen worse in the league, but his game calling's been a little mediocre so far.
5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Author Posted May 13, 2018 I should specify that by "so far" I mean this season only, not his general tenure.
5ToolPhenom Verified Member Posted May 13, 2018 Author Posted May 13, 2018 Just a casual question. On the plus side, I like how he's used the bullpen. Sure, they've been overused, but that's only because the starters have been so underwhelming.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 It's shocking to me that this team is over .500. Gibby has to get some of the credit for that.
BTS Community Moderator Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) It's shocking to me that this team is over .500. Gibby has to get some of the credit for that. Yup. - JD has been battling injury all year and hasn’t been himself - Tulo hasn’t played a game - Tulo’s replacement was s***, then got hurt too - Martin hasn’t hit at all - Smoak has been replacement level again - Kendrys Morales might be the worst player in MLB - Stroman has been s*** and is now hurt - Sanchez has been s*** - Estrada has been s*** - Garcia has been s*** - Osuna was arrested for domestic assault Somehow the team is chugging along a game over 0.500 with zero rumours of clubhouse issues. Gibby is a goddamn stud. Edited May 14, 2018 by BTS
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Gibby's lineups have been fantastic all year long, even with what is basically a forced inclusion of Morales. He hasn't had much to work with on the bullpen side due to the starters being quite lackluster, but nevertheless he's brought in the right relievers most of the time accounting properly for leverage. He continues to be extremely charismatic. 10/10 Gibby
Mac Outlaw Verified Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 When is John Gibbons gonna get his due? As an ex-catcher, you know he was probably gonna handle pitching staffs and bullpen decisions well, which he always has. I like his batting lineups too. The guy can manage, let's move on.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I'm generally a Gibby fan, but this year some of the lineup management has been a bit weird and I feel like he's not giving the team the best chance to win. I notice he'll start a lot of backups in clusters whereas I think he'd be better suited to spread them out a bit when giving guys a day off. Some of his batting orders have been puzzling as well. He seems to make the lineups based on the "hot" hand as opposed to basing things off of the statistical probability. It's early in the season of course and I've definitely seen worse in the league, but his game calling's been a little mediocre so far. Best manager in the game
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Best manager in the game Man oh man - how far we've come. There's one thing I know about this team and it's that Gibby is not an issue. Long live Gibby - the best Blue Jays manager of all-time.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 Man oh man - how far we've come. There's one thing I know about this team and it's that Gibby is not an issue. Long live Gibby - the best Blue Jays manager of all-time. It's funny, I made that post partly in jest but I can't think of a single manager I'd rather have.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I have a few minor nitpicky things like him still waiting too long to yank the starters...after they've given up the lead rather than 1 or batters prior when it's clear the starter is just serving it up... but that might be because the starters have been so s*** that he's really limited in his options. He always has been very loyal to his starters in that way and i'm not sure if the results would be any better now given the pen is already overworked ... and getting more work probably won't do it any favours.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 I have a few minor nitpicky things like him still waiting too long to yank the starters...after they've given up the lead rather than 1 or batters prior when it's clear the starter is just serving it up... but that might be because the starters have been so s*** that he's really limited in his options. He always has been very loyal to his starters in that way and i'm not sure if the results would be any better now given the pen is already overworked ... and getting more work probably won't do it any favours. From what I have gathered Gibby is aware of the "3rd time though the order" dropoff but he doesn't adhere to it because he thinks it will wear down a bullpen over the course of the season. I'm not really sure what to make of that.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 But Gibby is a damn good manager. His in-game strategy is fine. Sometimes his lineups are a little funky or he leaves a starter in too long but it's minor gripes. I think he's probably one of the top managers in this regard. But on top of that he also seems to manage the players very well. He never throws anyone under the bus when the media tries to bait him into it. He also doesn't take s*** from the umps or opposing managers yet the team refrains from stupid bean ball wars unless they have to. He's a funny guy on top of it all. I'd sign him to a lifetime contract if it were up to me.
dineke Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 But Gibby is a damn good manager. His in-game strategy is fine. Sometimes his lineups are a little funky or he leaves a starter in too long but it's minor gripes. I think he's probably one of the top managers in this regard. But on top of that he also seems to manage the players very well. He never throws anyone under the bus when the media tries to bait him into it. He also doesn't take s*** from the umps or opposing managers yet the team refrains from stupid bean ball wars unless they have to. He's a funny guy on top of it all. I'd sign him to a lifetime contract if it were up to me. It already feels like he's been here a lifetime. When I started watching baseball in 2004 he was the manager and I can't believe he's here in 2018 lol.
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted May 14, 2018 Posted May 14, 2018 From what I have gathered Gibby is aware of the "3rd time though the order" dropoff but he doesn't adhere to it because he thinks it will wear down a bullpen over the course of the season. I'm not really sure what to make of that. The thing i like the most about Gibby is the info he gave in some interview at the start of the year where he admitted that he wasn't a big student of the analytics previously but has been making the effort to learn about it and use it with his management of games.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 You guys remember that game where Matt Williams came out of the dugout to take out Scherzer and Max told him to f*** off? Then Williams tucked his little dick and walked back to the dugout? You occassionally see Gibby getting into it with JD and there's no lingering disdain. I can't imagine it's easy to control big egos but Gibby makes it clear that he's the boss when he needs to and takes the foot off the gas when warranted. That's a hard line to walk and he does it with such grace. I agree with Term, I want this guy to be to the Jays what Tony LaRussa was to the Cardinals.
AledmysDiaz Verified Member Posted May 15, 2018 Posted May 15, 2018 I think at this point Gibby should take over for Russell Martin as the catcher
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