SAAviour Verified Member Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 It’s clear to me we are rebuilding without tanking, and the beauty so far of Atkins and Shapiro is that while we rebuild we have an outside shot at the wild card! And the best part about baseball is everyone has a chance on opening day (unless your team full on tanks). And hey, IF Alford hits .320, and if Borucki wins a spot in the rotation and is successful, and if Sanchez is an ace again, and if Grichuk is Smoak II, and if Smoak is for real etc etc we can have a playoff team...and even if some of that doesn’t happen or possibly if something else unforeseen happens we have a playoff run.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I think the Jays are probably a .500 team in '18, but I want them to make the playoffs now if only to shut Krylian up.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2018 Posted February 11, 2018 I think the Jays are probably a .500 team in '18, but I want them to make the playoffs now if only to shut Krylian up. I will graciously shut the f*** up if the Jays make the postseason. Something tells me I won't need to.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I will graciously shut the f*** up if the Jays make the postseason. Something tells me I won't need to. Do you want us to sacrifice the future or accelerate our win curve to make the playoffs in 2018?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 I don't feel like they're going after it in 2018, and I don't feel like they're rebuilding either. They're creating the illusion of competing this year but I don't feel they will. They're trying to salvage attendance at the request of Rogers I'm guessing. Being a little bit pregnant doesn't work. I guess I don't really have a problem with what Atkins is doing...I just don't don't buy that this team will be competitive in 2018.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Visiting a friend in NY in April. Might get tickets to Jays v Yanks. it's the weekend I head back home but I hope I can work it in. it would be another ball park off my list of to do's
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 https://www.mlb.com/news/blue-jays-josh-donaldson-aims-for-2018-success/c-266277742
The Iceman Verified Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Reading through the "Right now" rankings Jays have 2 players in the top ten for their positions. JD and Osuna. Stro would be the only other guy close I would imagine. Not nearly enough talent on this team to compete with the big boys.
justafan Verified Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Okay, but on what are you basing your opinion? Articles you've read about Tulo specifically stating he likes being seen as the go to player on his team and if he's not that guy he feels it disrupts his ability to play? If so, please link them. Otherwise it's just pure speculation with no basis in reality Which, btw if theres even a shrednof truth to your statement of opinion, why would he have waived his no trade clause and accepted a trade to Toronto when he did, knowing full well Jose and Edwin and Martin and Donaldson were already here and he wouldn't be seen as the man? I did say it was my opinion. Anyone wants to go to an all-star team until its not. If I recall, Tulo went something like 0 for 24 in the games immediately before he was traded. I'll let you verify. I think he was asked, felt he wasn't wanted and lost confidence.
Mikeleelop Verified Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Can we expect the Jays to add a roster player between now and the start of the season???
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) The patch idea is a good one Lasts all season long Edited February 12, 2018 by G-Snarls
Ehjays Verified Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/02/blue-jays-sign-craig-breslow-minors.html The Blue Jays are in agreement with left-handed reliever Craig Breslow on a minor league contract, tweets Robert Murray of FanRag Sports. Breslow, who is represented by the Baratta Partners, will vie for a bullpen job in Major League Spring Training. Toronto has been stockpiling bullpen options on minor league deals lately, as they’ve now added Breslow, John Axford (link) and Jake Petricka (link) in the past week alone. Toronto also added Al Alburquerque on a minors pact earlier this winter. The 37-year-old Breslow will give the Jays an option to compete alongside Aaron Loup, Matt Dermody, Tim Mayza and fellow non-roster pitcher Chad Girodo for a spot as a lefty in the ’pen. Breslow opened the 2017 season with the Twins on the heels of a winter in which worked to alter his mechanics and lower his arm slot. He didn’t fare particularly well in Minnesota (5.23 ERA in 31 innings), although that was largely due to the fact that other injuries throughout the bullpen (and some short outings from the rotation) early in the season forced the Twins to use Breslow against right-handed opponents far more than would be preferable. Breslow faced twice as many righties as lefties in 2017, and they clobbered him at a .330/.393/.542 clip. However, lefties were utterly befuddled against Breslow, hitting just .196/.294/.286.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 This should come as a surprise to no one. Anything less would be a pretty bad oversight by management.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Reading through the "Right now" rankings Jays have 2 players in the top ten for their positions. JD and Osuna. Stro would be the only other guy close I would imagine. Not nearly enough talent on this team to compete with the big boys. Did they not rank Martin as a top 10 catcher? Because they should.
The Iceman Verified Member Posted February 12, 2018 Posted February 12, 2018 Did they not rank Martin as a top 10 catcher? Because they should. 2 lists. No Martin.https://www.mlb.com/news/buster-posey-remains-atop-2018-top-10-catchers/c-265337230
justafan Verified Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Did they not rank Martin as a top 10 catcher? Because they should. I don't think so.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Did they not rank Martin as a top 10 catcher? Because they should. Just missed, as was Smoak...it's Mike Petriello, and the rest of the MLB Network consensus as the "shredder". The only guy worth listening to on these is Brian Kenny. https://www.mlb.com/news/buster-posey-remains-atop-2018-top-10-catchers/c-265337230
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Deciding between seeing Jays in Dunedin VS Orioles on March or Jays @ Orioles the next day in their ST facility. I've been to Dunedin once. Anyone been to Orioles facility?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Deciding between seeing Jays in Dunedin VS Orioles on March or Jays @ Orioles the next day in their ST facility. I've been to Dunedin once. Anyone been to Orioles facility? Jays @ O's March 8th? I'm going to that game. I've never been to Sarasota myself. Looking forward to it
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Jays @ O's March 8th? I'm going to that game. I've never been to Sarasota myself. Looking forward to it Yes that's the game
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Yes that's the game Nice - if you go to that game, let me know and I'll buy you a beer. I've been to Dunedin a few times and (unless they've done a lot of reno's lately) it's not a great park. I'm looking forward to seeing a few different stadiums this year (also going to Bradenton to see the Pirates).
spats Verified Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 Nice - if you go to that game, let me know and I'll buy you a beer. I've been to Dunedin a few times and (unless they've done a lot of reno's lately) it's not a great park. I'm looking forward to seeing a few different stadiums this year (also going to Bradenton to see the Pirates). I don't think the renos will start until after Spring training. Both the Sarasota Park and Bradenton are a step up from Dunedin.... the 2 nicest parks in the area are Phillies in Clearwater and Steinbrenner Park in Tampa. I can't wait to get down there in April to watch some A ball. Hopefully Vlad and/or Bichette may be there but I'm not counting on it.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted February 13, 2018 Posted February 13, 2018 I don't think the renos will start until after Spring training. Both the Sarasota Park and Bradenton are a step up from Dunedin.... the 2 nicest parks in the area are Phillies in Clearwater and Steinbrenner Park in Tampa. I can't wait to get down there in April to watch some A ball. Hopefully Vlad and/or Bichette may be there but I'm not counting on it. I went to the Twins stadium in Fort Myers last year. It's been renovated and I thought it was gorgeous FWIW.
Todd Verified Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Blue jays still need two starting pitchers and maybe two more bullpen pitchers and back up catcher who can hit. Edited February 14, 2018 by Todd
AledmysDiaz Verified Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Blue jays still need two starting pitchers and maybe two more bullpen pitchers and back up catcher who can hit. If we were competing for a division title maybe, In front office's view point this is a .500 team with a small probability of doing better, and as such they want to accumulate pieces that could over perform and potentially be moved for prospects.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 If we were competing for a division title maybe, In front office's view point this is a .500 team with a small probability of doing better, and as such they want to accumulate pieces that could over perform and potentially be moved for prospects. lol... you kids should play in a pod!
The Iceman Verified Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Blue jays still need two starting pitchers and maybe two more bullpen pitchers and back up catcher who can hit. If they acquire a SP then Biagini slots back into a late inning relief role where he is a proven commodity and my preference. One signing fills 2 spots.Jays have their top 4 spots locked in. no reason to acquire 2 SPs that are better than Estrada their 4th pitcher or Estrada would be a bullpen arm. That is not going to happen. So the thought of signing 2 good SPs is just a dream. Edited February 14, 2018 by The Iceman
flafson Verified Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Blue jays still need two starting pitchers and maybe two more bullpen pitchers and back up catcher who can hit. Usually a catcher that can hit is a starter.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted February 14, 2018 Posted February 14, 2018 Usually a catcher that can hit is a starter. What are you talking about? Every team in baseball has a David Ross type.
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