Ray Verified Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Non-tender candidates according to MLBTR. Travis and Solarte both listed. No Pillar. Position Players Ehire Adrianza (Twins, $1.8MM) Aaron Altherr (Phillies, $1.6MM) Tim Beckham (Orioles, $4.3MM) Justin Bour (Phillies, $5.2MM) Cheslor Cuthbert (Royals, $1.1MM) Travis d’Arnaud (Mets, $3.7MM) Delino DeShields Jr. (Rangers, $1.9MM) Adam Duvall (Braves, $3.1MM) Wilmer Flores (Mets, $4.7MM) Avisail Garcia (White Sox, $8.0MM) Leury Garcia (White Sox, $1.9MM) Greg Garcia (Padres, $900K) Robbie Grossman (Twins, $4.0MM) Gorkys Hernandez (Giants, $1.6MM) Chris Herrmann (Astros, $1.5MM) Caleb Joseph (Orioles, $1.7MM) Erik Kratz (Brewers, $1.7MM) Sandy Leon (Red Sox, $2.3MM) Jake Marisnick (Astros, $2.4MM) James McCann (Tigers, $3.5MM) John Ryan Murphy (Diamondbacks, $1.1MM) Chris Owings (Diamondbacks, $3.6MM) Hernan Perez (Brewers, $2.7MM) Josh Phegley (Athletics, $1.2MM) Miguel Rojas (Marlins, $2.6MM) Addison Russell (Cubs, $4.3MM) Tyler Saladino (Brewers, $1.0MM) Jonathan Schoop (Brewers, $10.1MM) Yangervis Solarte (Blue Jays, $5.9MM) Cory Spangenberg (Padres, $2.3MM) Devon Travis (Blue Jays, $2.4MM) Tony Wolters (Rockies, $1.1MM) Pitchers Matt Andriese (Diamondbacks, $1.1MM) Chad Bettis (Rockies, $3.2M) Eddie Butler (Rangers, $900K) Brian Flynn (Royals, $1.0MM) Sam Freeman (Braves, $1.5M) Luis Garcia (Phillies, $1.7MM) Yimi Garcia (Dodgers, $900K) Jesse Hahn (Royals, $1.7MM) Tom Koehler (Dodgers, $2.0MM) Shelby Miller (Diamondbacks, $4.9MM) Bryan Mitchell (Padres, $1.2MM) Neil Ramirez (Indians, $1.3MM) Tanner Roark (Nationals, $9.8MM) Zac Rosscup (Dodgers, $800K) Chris Rusin (Rockies, $1.7MM) Chasen Shreve (Cardinals, $1.2MM) Sammy Solis (Nationals, $900K) Tyler Thornburg (Red Sox, $2.3MM) Jonny Venters (Braves, $1.5M)
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 I'm watching Moneyball. I love this movie. Does Billy Beane get elected into the HOF?
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 I'm watching Moneyball. I love this movie. Does Billy Beane get elected into the HOF? I can't see why not.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 I'm watching Moneyball. I love this movie. Does Billy Beane get elected into the HOF? He should. Being the first openly gay GM is great for the sport!
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 He should. Being the first openly gay GM is great for the sport! I feel like this post was an attempt to pick on a misspell but it wasn't and now I'm confused which might be what you were trying to accomplish well maybe not me in particular but anyone else reading that ok bye
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Non-tender candidates according to MLBTR. Travis and Solarte both listed. No Pillar. Position Players Ehire Adrianza (Twins, $1.8MM) Aaron Altherr (Phillies, $1.6MM) Tim Beckham (Orioles, $4.3MM) Justin Bour (Phillies, $5.2MM) Cheslor Cuthbert (Royals, $1.1MM) Travis d’Arnaud (Mets, $3.7MM) Delino DeShields Jr. (Rangers, $1.9MM) Adam Duvall (Braves, $3.1MM) Wilmer Flores (Mets, $4.7MM) Avisail Garcia (White Sox, $8.0MM) Leury Garcia (White Sox, $1.9MM) Greg Garcia (Padres, $900K) Robbie Grossman (Twins, $4.0MM) Gorkys Hernandez (Giants, $1.6MM) Chris Herrmann (Astros, $1.5MM) Caleb Joseph (Orioles, $1.7MM) Erik Kratz (Brewers, $1.7MM) Sandy Leon (Red Sox, $2.3MM) Jake Marisnick (Astros, $2.4MM) James McCann (Tigers, $3.5MM) John Ryan Murphy (Diamondbacks, $1.1MM) Chris Owings (Diamondbacks, $3.6MM) Hernan Perez (Brewers, $2.7MM) Josh Phegley (Athletics, $1.2MM) Miguel Rojas (Marlins, $2.6MM) Addison Russell (Cubs, $4.3MM) Tyler Saladino (Brewers, $1.0MM) Jonathan Schoop (Brewers, $10.1MM) Yangervis Solarte (Blue Jays, $5.9MM) Cory Spangenberg (Padres, $2.3MM) Devon Travis (Blue Jays, $2.4MM) Tony Wolters (Rockies, $1.1MM) Pitchers Matt Andriese (Diamondbacks, $1.1MM) Chad Bettis (Rockies, $3.2M) Eddie Butler (Rangers, $900K) Brian Flynn (Royals, $1.0MM) Sam Freeman (Braves, $1.5M) Luis Garcia (Phillies, $1.7MM) Yimi Garcia (Dodgers, $900K) Jesse Hahn (Royals, $1.7MM) Tom Koehler (Dodgers, $2.0MM) Shelby Miller (Diamondbacks, $4.9MM) Bryan Mitchell (Padres, $1.2MM) Neil Ramirez (Indians, $1.3MM) Tanner Roark (Nationals, $9.8MM) Zac Rosscup (Dodgers, $800K) Chris Rusin (Rockies, $1.7MM) Chasen Shreve (Cardinals, $1.2MM) Sammy Solis (Nationals, $900K) Tyler Thornburg (Red Sox, $2.3MM) Jonny Venters (Braves, $1.5M) That is a lot of crap. I'd probably take Roark at that rate. Maybe also Yimi Garcia.
TheHurl Site Manager Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Likely a value loss but something like Pillar for Roark makes sense.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 That is a lot of crap. I'd probably take Roark at that rate. Maybe also Yimi Garcia. Shelby Miller at half the rate of Roark, maybe?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is a guy to look at. Was babiped this year
baubau Verified Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is a guy to look at. Was babiped this year The Jays were interested in him last offseason: http://redsminorleagues.com/2017/12/13/blue-jays-interested-reds-adam-duvall/
TBJ12 Verified Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 The Jays were interested in him last offseason: http://redsminorleagues.com/2017/12/13/blue-jays-interested-reds-adam-duvall/ A couple comments from that article. "December 13, 2017 Max Pentecost is a better prospect than Danny Jansen (and he wouldn’t cost us a 35hr 100+rbi a year gold glove leftfielder) Once again, you’re disappointing me here Doug" "December 13, 2017 How about Billy H. and Adam D. in exchange for Bichette and Guerrero? Two proven MLB starters in exchange for two up and comers who’ve got a boatload of potential… (i could get behind this sorta move, even if it never works out)"
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 A couple comments from that article. These comments were much better, lol. Tyler December 14, 2017 There’s no way the Blue Jays would ever trade Vlad Jr and Bichette for Duvall and Hamilton. That’s laughable. I doubt you could even make that happen on a video game. MK December 14, 2017 Maybe they would throw in Josh Donaldson too.
baubau Verified Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 A couple comments from that article. I learned a long time ago not to read the comment sections of any articles or yt videos. lol
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 I learned a long time ago not to read the comment sections of any articles or yt videos. lol I ignored it the 1st time when you posted the link, the next thing I know I'm back looking cause of TBJ12 posted that. lol
DigitalRock Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Lol, there’s no way that post is an 8. I was trying to be nice.....4/10 it is.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 He should. Being the first openly gay GM is great for the sport! but he has 99 kids with Lara Croft
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is a guy to look at. Was babiped this year And in 2017, when he didn't get babiped, he posted a wRC+ of 97. For that reason, I'm out.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Non-tender candidates according to MLBTR. Travis and Solarte both listed. No Pillar. Position Players Aaron Altherr (Phillies, $1.6MM) Justin Bour (Phillies, $5.2MM) Adam Duvall (Braves, $3.1MM) Robbie Grossman (Twins, $4.0MM) Jake Marisnick (Astros, $2.4MM) Addison Russell (Cubs, $4.3MM) Pitchers Matt Andriese (Diamondbacks, $1.1MM) Eddie Butler (Rangers, $900K) Sam Freeman (Braves, $1.5M) Yimi Garcia (Dodgers, $900K) Jesse Hahn (Royals, $1.7MM) Shelby Miller (Diamondbacks, $4.9MM) Tanner Roark (Nationals, $9.8MM) Chasen Shreve (Cardinals, $1.2MM) Tyler Thornburg (Red Sox, $2.3MM) Jonny Venters (Braves, $1.5M) ^ players I would consider owning
glory Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 We already have Duvall. His name is Teoscar.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 We already have Duvall. His name is Teoscar. Duvall is actually a +5 baserunner (total) and +7 defender (OF, UZR/150) in his career. Teoscar is a -2.5 and horrendous -11.4. So, Duvall is different because he is actually an outfielder and not a total baseball instincts disaster. Also he's white and Nationalism is really popular with the kids right now.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is actually a +5 baserunner (total) and +7 defender (OF, UZR/150) in his career. Teoscar is a -2.5 and horrendous -11.4. So, Duvall is different because he is actually an outfielder and not a total baseball instincts disaster. Also he's white and Nationalism is really popular with the kids right now. Yeah I meant offensively, but I think I'd rather see if Hernandez's defence is fixable than to acquire Duvall.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is just a stopgap, 1 year deal guy ideally. He could be knocking them out at a 40 home run clip in the Jay's bandbox with above average defence and can be moved at deadline This is all a rebuilding team wants from non tenders, really
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Disappointingly this would be an excellent hire for the Orioles.
Laika Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is just a stopgap, 1 year deal guy ideally. He could be knocking them out at a 40 home run clip in the Jay's bandbox with above average defence and can be moved at deadline This is all a rebuilding team wants from non tenders, really Duvall would be controllable through 2021 so if they sign him and he has a big year there would be no urgency to move him.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall would be controllable through 2021 so if they sign him and he has a big year there would be no urgency to move him. True but he's 30 yes old and the control would just increase his value
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 He kinda looks like a lesbian to be quite honest
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Duvall is just a stopgap, 1 year deal guy ideally. He could be knocking them out at a 40 home run clip in the Jay's bandbox with above average defence and can be moved at deadline This is all a rebuilding team wants from non tenders, really http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 14, 2018 Posted November 14, 2018 Orioles might also be getting Sig Mejdal from Astros, analytics god. Two great hires from their Org... godammit!
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