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Well I'd be pissed off too everyone called me dumn on just about everything I said. But don't go all keyboard warrior, you just keep digging a bigger, more hilarious hole for yourself. Edited by KingKat
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Well I'd be pissed off too everyone called me dumn on just about everything I said. But don't go all keyboard warrior, you just keep digging a bigger, more hilarious hole for yourself.

 

To be fair, nearly everything he says is dumn as s***

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So where does Pillar's offensive value come from then? His nonexistent strike zone awareness? Below average power?

 

His contact ability is only a benefit if he learns strike zone awareness, because watching him make contact on balls 2 feet outside the zone that he has no business swinging at isn't really a plus.

 

 

 

Well, it did work for Vladimir Guerrero , ( the swinging at almost any pitch ) so why would it not for Pillar? It's a hand-eye co-ordination skill , that one could develop with practice. I'm fairly positive no

hitting coach actually went out of their way to convince Vlad to do what he did at the plate.

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Well, it did work for Vladimir Guerrero , ( the swinging at almost any pitch ) so why would it not for Pillar? It's a hand-eye co-ordination skill , that one could develop with practice. I'm fairly positive no

hitting coach actually went out of their way to convince Vlad to do what he did at the plate.

 

comparing Vlad Sr to Pillar. Really?

 

Vlad had double the walk rate, 60% lower K rate, and tremendous power.

 

the only similarity is the aggression at the plate

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Karel Pilar has two walks today. Patience improving rapidly with his new mechanics and comfort.
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Karel Pilar has two walks today. Patience improving rapidly with his new mechanics and comfort.

 

Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

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Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

 

Stop it

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Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

 

Did you get it all out of your system?

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Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

 

The troll Force is strong in this one.

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Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

 

Could Superman be worth 162 WAR.The rest of the team would literally have to do nothing.

 

I would imagine a team with Superman is going to be 162-0, the other team would have never scored a run the entire year, unless the pitchers walks 4 consecutive batters (Assuming Superman is not pitching), and Superman would hit a homerun every time. So he would have like 500 Homeruns in a year.

 

Lets Discuss.

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Tholes Weird Eye has him at .350 .450 .610 or so based on an article that was out there.

 

I think it is possible. He has not hit a homer yet, but we all know he has 20 homer power, he has been patient.

 

Something like .350 average, 60 doubles 15 triples 19 homers, 75 walks, 25 hit by pitch might get him there.

 

it would be a fun season, one of the best ops ever for a guy with less than 20 homers??

 

Bold Prediction: Kevin Pillar breaks through with a .350 .450 .600 season, with remarkable numbers of doubles, stolen bases, hit by pitch, and incredible baserunning.

 

His defense takes it to the next level. Kevin Pillar has the greatest season ever. 15 WAR.

 

 

Stop trying to piggy back my bold predictions you son of a bitch!

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http://i.imgur.com/mBYetXl.png

 

He's talking about a different player: Kevil Pillar. Nice try, King

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He's talking about a different player: Kevil Pillar. Nice try, King

 

What a hater. Making any type of disingenuous stretch to prove his point.

 

All I gotta say to King and people like him: watch and learn, folks.

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By the looks of it Tulo and Pillar Freaky Friday'd some how but they last few games it looks like they were able to switch back.
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Pillar working on the bunt for base hits now. Anyone want to up that average projection/prediction?
I think we can safely pencil him in now for a .400/.450/.450 line for this season.
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I think we can safely pencil him in now for a .400/.450/.450 line for this season.

 

No kidding. With his defense we could be looking at a 10 WAR guy this year

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I think we can safely pencil him in now for a .400/.450/.450 line for this season.

 

It will be really hard to hit .400 with a .450 slugging percentage. He'd have to limit himself to 25 doubles, 0 triples and 0 homers.

 

If he hits .400

 

He will probably be hitting the ball hard

He will probably get 50 doubles

He will probably get a few triples

He will probably get 15-20 homers

 

If he hits .400 he has a really good chance of slugging atleast .550. Also if he hits .400 they will walk him, I think all they have to do this year is hollar to walk him. They will also hit him a few times.

 

IF__ he hits .400 he will hit .400 .470 .570, and could get 12+ WAR. People are vastly underestimating how good Kevin Pillar would be if he hits .350-.400.

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It will be really hard to hit .400 with a .450 slugging percentage. He'd have to limit himself to 25 doubles, 0 triples and 0 homers.

 

If he hits .400

 

He will probably be hitting the ball hard

He will probably get 50 doubles

He will probably get a few triples

He will probably get 15-20 homers

 

If he hits .400 he has a really good chance of slugging atleast .550. Also if he hits .400 they will walk him, I think all they have to do this year is hollar to walk him. They will also hit him a few times.

 

IF__ he hits .400 he will hit .400 .470 .570, and could get 12+ WAR. People are vastly underestimating how good Kevin Pillar would be if he hits .350-.400.

It was a joke about his new bunting skill.
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No kidding. With his defense we could be looking at a 10 WAR guy this year

 

Hey wait. I thought you accused me of trolling for playing along with this...

 

Anyway peace. No need to slam each other. Kevin Pillar has improved. That is becoming obvious. If some of us want to dream, let us.

 

What would Pillar be like if he really improved as much as, say Bautista did in 2010, but his skill set was the same. Low strikeout line drive hitter, amazing defense, amazing baserunning.

 

Hits in the luckiest of luck, has the healthiest of health. Liners all over the place. 30 fangraphs defense. Gibby see's it right away so hits him lead off all year, get almost 800 plate appearances.

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It was a joke about his new bunting skill.

 

Good point then. Yes. If he decides to really cut down his swing, like Ichiro, and he really does good at the bunting (he is practicing right??) then he could hit .400 with a .450 slugging.

 

I still see him going more in the Paul Molitor direction. Hard liners 3 times a game.

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It will be really hard to hit .400 with a .450 slugging percentage. He'd have to limit himself to 25 doubles, 0 triples and 0 homers.

 

If he hits .400

 

He will probably be hitting the ball hard

He will probably get 50 doubles

He will probably get a few triples

He will probably get 15-20 homers

 

If he hits .400 he has a really good chance of slugging atleast .550. Also if he hits .400 they will walk him, I think all they have to do this year is hollar to walk him. They will also hit him a few times.

 

IF__ he hits .400 he will hit .400 .470 .570, and could get 12+ WAR. People are vastly underestimating how good Kevin Pillar would be if he hits .350-.400.

 

I suspect your calcs are off, but this puts Trout's 10+ WAR seasons and Babe Ruth's 15 WAR season into perspective a bit...

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