General 2017 Blue Jays Discussion Thread

[burlingtonbandit]

Seems weird the Jays are firing all of these well respected employees in non-baseball operations roles. Maybe it happens more often then we know but 2 seemingly good employees who have been with the org. for more than 15 years?

 

Like they'd be paying a lot of money in severance to get rid of these guys so there must be more to it.

[Maahfaace]

Bo Bichette ring interviewed by Wilner on fan 590.if anyone is interested. Callers getting a chance to ask him stuff

[glory]

Bo Bichette ring interviewed by Wilner on fan 590.if anyone is interested. Callers getting a chance to ask him stuff

 

Poor Bo. Being exposed to Mike Wilner and Wilner's usual audience at the same time. I don't know which one of those things is worse.

[Maahfaace]

Bo Bichette ring interviewed by Wilner on fan 590.if anyone is interested. Callers getting a chance to ask him stuff

 

Don't drive and text folks, garbled indeed.

[Captain Adama]

Poor Bo. Being exposed to Mike Wilner and Wilner's usual audience at the same time. I don't know which one of those things is worse.

 

Yeah I didn't want Bo getting exposed to the Jays fan cesspool this early.

[CrackerJack]

Seems weird the Jays are firing all of these well respected employees in non-baseball operations roles. Maybe it happens more often then we know but 2 seemingly good employees who have been with the org. for more than 15 years?

 

Like they'd be paying a lot of money in severance to get rid of these guys so there must be more to it.

 

I just learned that my Account Executive who I've had for many years "is no longer with the organization."

[vdubmvp]

Who is he, and why is he writing?

 

lol thank you for this reminder.

 

[G-Snarls]

Seems weird the Jays are firing all of these well respected employees in non-baseball operations roles. Maybe it happens more often then we know but 2 seemingly good employees who have been with the org. for more than 15 years?

 

Like they'd be paying a lot of money in severance to get rid of these guys so there must be more to it.

 

[burlingtonbandit]

I just learned that my Account Executive who I've had for many years "is no longer with the organization."

 

Who was that?

[CrackerJack]

Who was that?

 

Adam Hagerman

 

btw were you successful in upgrading the location of your seats?

[Dick_Pole]

It was eye opening the amount of knowledge this guy knew about incoming players and requests. He was a champ.

 

Maybe he was TOO good at his job.

 

New guy: "Chris Sale has a peanut allergy? s***, sorry I didn't know that. I guess he misses his start today"

 

Jays will be 60 games at home next year. Finally this team smartened up and hired a Jew to run it.

[Boxcar]

Maybe he was TOO good at his job.

 

New guy: "Chris Sale has a peanut allergy? s***, sorry I didn't know that. I guess he misses his start today"

 

Jays will be 60 games at home next year. Finally this team smartened up and hired a Jew to run it.

 

You know, I'm really starting to think that, if there really is a god, the correct religion absolutely has to be Judaism. I mean, they run everything in the world despite not even having their own nation state until after WW2, and even then it's tiny and surrounded by billions of people who hate them. Still they've made that place possibly the best to live in among all the others in that area. If I ever get that urge for a last minute conversion on my deathbed, I know which direction I'm going.

[TheHurl]

I don't get this one? I've seen a dedicated show on him, the guy's a champ. Too good at his job, lol.

 

Only thing I know about the guy is that he got his son a sweet ass job in the press boxes even though the kid is a degenerate. That's how Solway's (original Jays lawyer I believe) grand-kid got an internship too (nice guy, fun to drink with, but I'm sure there were better candidates rejected). I'm fine with the Jays losing some Canadian content if it gets rid of Beeston's Friends and Family hiring plans I'm good with it.

 

Occasional BJMB contributor Doug Fox had a nice little interview with Shapiro. I really think this guy would do an AMA with us (Shapiro...not Doug)

 

https://futurebluejays.com/2017/10/25/mark-shapiro-on-the-state-of-the-blue-jays/

Edited October 26, 2017 by TheHurl

[TheHurl]

I mentioned to Doug that BJMB has had some discussion about why Nutrition isn't pushed (in some cases is ignored) and asked him to talk to Shapiro or someone in the F.O. next time he has an interview. He responded that it is a story he is pursuing. Sorry for the poor format this was from a FB conversation. Good to see the Jays are trying to get ahead of the curve on this one.

 

 

This is a topic I've researched but have yet to write about. In the course of my research, I've spoken to a number of Blue Jays prospects, as well as Director of High Performance Angus Mugford. And I can tell you that the club has made huge strides in this direction. There are High Performance staff at each affiliate, and an area of focus for this season has been proper diet and nutrition. I asked Angus how you get a low round draft pick who's playing for less than a 7-11 worker to get with the program, and he said those are the guys who are most motivated to find anything to give them an edge, and almost all of them have bought in. Rowdy Tellez said in an article in Fangraphs last year that he never really learned how to eat properly or cook for himself until last year. Here are some questions I asked Chris Rowley this year about the topic, with his responses below:

 

1. What (if anything) have you learned about nutrition since the high performance dep't came into being last year?

 

2. How hard is it to eat properly on a minor leaguer's salary, with all the training, playing, and travel you do?

 

3. What (if any) changes to your diet have you made since turning pro?

 

 

1. A lot. Nutrition is different for someone trying to get strong or improve body image, etc. compared to performance optimization. So what to eat, when to eat it, and in what quantities are in the majority of what I've learned in the past couple years.

 

2. It's obviously difficult because of the salary, not to mention the fact that we're home for a week, in a hotel for a week, and constantly back and forth. Oftentimes we're at the mercy of what visiting clubhouses have prepared for us, and at that point it becomes a choice of what's available to you and the fact that you need to eat. The jays do a good job of keeping spreads optimized at home.

 

3. The most significant change was putting on weight. I came out of the army around 185 pounds, and I needed to put on a lot of weight to get my velocity up and stay healthy throughout (hopefully) 162 games. So the challenge with that is making sure it's good weight. I pitched last year between 190-200, this year 210-215.

 

Chris' response was above and beyond what I received from other players, but the sentiments were similar. As Mark told me, he hopes the HD Dept will help give the Jays a competitive advantage.

[Bobthe4th]

I mentioned to Doug that BJMB has had some discussion about why Nutrition isn't pushed (in some cases is ignored) and asked him to talk to Shapiro or someone in the F.O. next time he has an interview. He responded that it is a story he is pursuing. Sorry for the poor format this was from a FB conversation. Good to see the Jays are trying to get ahead of the curve on this one.

 

 

This is a topic I've researched but have yet to write about. In the course of my research, I've spoken to a number of Blue Jays prospects, as well as Director of High Performance Angus Mugford. And I can tell you that the club has made huge strides in this direction. There are High Performance staff at each affiliate, and an area of focus for this season has been proper diet and nutrition. I asked Angus how you get a low round draft pick who's playing for less than a 7-11 worker to get with the program, and he said those are the guys who are most motivated to find anything to give them an edge, and almost all of them have bought in. Rowdy Tellez said in an article in Fangraphs last year that he never really learned how to eat properly or cook for himself until last year. Here are some questions I asked Chris Rowley this year about the topic, with his responses below:

 

1. What (if anything) have you learned about nutrition since the high performance dep't came into being last year?

 

2. How hard is it to eat properly on a minor leaguer's salary, with all the training, playing, and travel you do?

 

3. What (if any) changes to your diet have you made since turning pro?

 

 

1. A lot. Nutrition is different for someone trying to get strong or improve body image, etc. compared to performance optimization. So what to eat, when to eat it, and in what quantities are in the majority of what I've learned in the past couple years.

 

2. It's obviously difficult because of the salary, not to mention the fact that we're home for a week, in a hotel for a week, and constantly back and forth. Oftentimes we're at the mercy of what visiting clubhouses have prepared for us, and at that point it becomes a choice of what's available to you and the fact that you need to eat. The jays do a good job of keeping spreads optimized at home.

 

3. The most significant change was putting on weight. I came out of the army around 185 pounds, and I needed to put on a lot of weight to get my velocity up and stay healthy throughout (hopefully) 162 games. So the challenge with that is making sure it's good weight. I pitched last year between 190-200, this year 210-215.

 

Chris' response was above and beyond what I received from other players, but the sentiments were similar. As Mark told me, he hopes the HD Dept will help give the Jays a competitive advantage.

 

I'm always amazed that in interviews with American sportsmen, 9 out of 10 times, they refer to eating fast food all the time, and often consider something like a sandwich from Subway to be "healthy".

 

OK the majority of them have a poor educational background, but a priority of sports teams should be at least hiring nutritionists to give advice. Once a player starts earning real money then they should be encouraged to hire personal chefs.

[Boxcar]

Damn, good work Hurl. That was some interesting stuff.

[TheHurl]

Damn, good work Hurl. That was some interesting stuff.

 

Not me at all, all Doug Fox. I wish he posted here more often (Clutchlings). He's done well to get legit interviews for his blog. I do think we could get some F.O. members to answer some questions if we just asked them. I know Angus was asked to do something for King's program at school and he said yes right away (Strike is likely affecting that ... sorry King) but we could easily send him questions or do a video chat and I think he'd answer what he can. Shapiro seems open to doing things for smaller blogs as well.

[TheHurl]

 

How about Air Canada and we can call it Air Canada Centre

[burlingtonbandit]

Makes sense considering what the naming rights for ACC went for. Won't be worth nearly as much given how many events are at the ACC compared to the RC but they always say having the rights first is worth the most so people out of habit would still call it Rogers Centre even after it switched.

 

One thing I hope for if they do change the name is it gets changed to _____ "Field or Park". Having a baseball stadium called a Centre sounds dumb.

[G-Snarls]

[bones10]

 

I forgot we followed a specific team on this board

[Pendleton]

 

How about Air Canada and we can call it Air Canada Centre

 

Pendleton Park....I may need fellow investors.

[Orgfiller]

Makes sense considering what the naming rights for ACC went for. Won't be worth nearly as much given how many events are at the ACC compared to the RC but they always say having the rights first is worth the most so people out of habit would still call it Rogers Centre even after it switched.

 

One thing I hope for if they do change the name is it gets changed to _____ "Field or Park". Having a baseball stadium called a Centre sounds dumb.

 

That's until it gets changed to "Globe Life Park" or "Guaranteed Rate Field" and suddenly we have the worst stadium name in the league.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Orgfiller

[jays_fever]

That's until it gets changed to "Glove Life Park" or "Guaranteed Rate Field" and suddenly we have the worst stadium name in the league.

 

You play fifa right? Whats the best way to build a team from day 1, just save up and buy gold packs?

[Bobthe4th]

You play fifa right? Whats the best way to build a team from day 1, just save up and buy gold packs?

 

Wrong thread, but no.

 

Buying packs is inefficient - the chances of getting a decent player are very minimal. The chances of getting a decent player who fits in with the chemistry of your side (same league / nationality / team) are virtually non existent.

 

It's much easier to save up coins and buy specific players from the market that work together. Only problem is you'll never afford a superstar, but you can create a very good 85+ all rare gold team.

 

You also can get free packs for winning tournaments.

 

For the first few leagues, if you have any skill you'll get promotion easily with a team of 75 skill gold players that cost 300 coins each. Then you can decide what your team's focus will be (i.e. Spanish league etc, and your formation) and start buying specific players. If you don't have a specific team in mind and you're very lucky you might get a decent player in a free pack and you can then build around them.

[Spanky99]

Wrong thread, but no.

 

Buying packs is inefficient - the chances of getting a decent player are very minimal. The chances of getting a decent player who fits in with the chemistry of your side (same league / nationality / team) are virtually non existent.

 

It's much easier to save up coins and buy specific players from the market that work together. Only problem is you'll never afford a superstar, but you can create a very good 85+ all rare gold team.

 

You also can get free packs for winning tournaments.

 

For the first few leagues, if you have any skill you'll get promotion easily with a team of 75 skill gold players that cost 300 coins each. Then you can decide what your team's focus will be (i.e. Spanish league etc, and your formation) and start buying specific players. If you don't have a specific team in mind and you're very lucky you might get a decent player in a free pack and you can then build around them.

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/43-Vidya-Games-Chat?p=1207580#post1207580

[Orgfiller]

You play fifa right? Whats the best way to build a team from day 1, just save up and buy gold packs?

 

Wrong thread, but no.

 

Buying packs is inefficient - the chances of getting a decent player are very minimal. The chances of getting a decent player who fits in with the chemistry of your side (same league / nationality / team) are virtually non existent.

 

It's much easier to save up coins and buy specific players from the market that work together. Only problem is you'll never afford a superstar, but you can create a very good 85+ all rare gold team.

 

You also can get free packs for winning tournaments.

 

For the first few leagues, if you have any skill you'll get promotion easily with a team of 75 skill gold players that cost 300 coins each. Then you can decide what your team's focus will be (i.e. Spanish league etc, and your formation) and start buying specific players. If you don't have a specific team in mind and you're very lucky you might get a decent player in a free pack and you can then build around them.

 

He hit it on the nail. Do NOT buy packs with your hard earned coins, it's a huge scam, you're extremely unlikely to get anyone that's even half the price of the pack. Just save your coins and buy the players that fit your team the best, or simply the best player for your coin budget and build around them.

[Orgfiller]

Unfortunately this couldn't have come on a worse day, but Marcus Stroman was awarded a Gold Glove, so congratulations to him. A sliver of positive news in an otherwise devastating day.

[G-Snarls]

2018 promotions

 

[G-Snarls]

1. Please burn all the Pillar caped jerseys OMFG that's gonna be ugly AF

 

2. Alomar, Molitor, Olerud triple bobblehead is the best giveway I've heard of in a while. DAMN