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[Orgfiller]

Meanwhile the Cubs will be paying Brandon Morrow 2/21, and he's probably way better than Wade Davis is at this point.

[Jimcanuck]

Meanwhile the Cubs will be paying Brandon Morrow 2/21, and he's probably way better than Wade Davis is at this point.

 

Yes, by far, if healthy. Big IF. One of the reasons i just moved him in BORED.

[Jimcanuck]

ZIPS just threw down a Roberto Clemente comp on Avi Garcia.

 

And Delino DeShields on Yoan Moncada, lol.

[Spanky__99]

I know Wade Davis is awesome, but the Rockies are paying him 17.3M per year AND forfeit their 2nd round pick in the draft. This does not seem wise.

 

2nd/4th and 1 million against the IFA budget.

[saskjayfan]

2nd/4th and 1 million against the IFA budget.

 

I'm pretty sure they lose their third highest selection in the draft and no dollars against the IFA budget. Colorado wasn't a luxury tax team last year. I could be wrong about this.

[Jonn]

Duda could beast in Colorado for a couple years.

 

You can say the same about every player who hits deep fly balls in Colorado lol.

[Abomination]

I'm pretty sure they lose their third highest selection in the draft and no dollars against the IFA budget. Colorado wasn't a luxury tax team last year. I could be wrong about this.

 

Their 3rd highest selection is their 2nd round pick.

[saskjayfan]

Their 3rd highest selection is their 2nd round pick.

 

yes, having looked it up I know it is their 2nd round pick. Off memory I wasn't sure if they were a competitive balance A or B team so I said 3rd highest pick. The point was they don't lose 2 picks and money against the IFA market.

[baseballsss]

Yes, by far, if healthy. Big IF. One of the reasons i just moved him in BORED.

 

No doubt. Dodgers used and abused that arm in the playoffs.

[Jimcanuck]

No doubt. Dodgers used and abused that arm in the playoffs.

 

The guy is a No. 1 or 2 starter if healthy, let alone a high leverage reliever.

[Brownie19]

The guy is a No. 1 or 2 starter if healthy, let alone a high leverage reliever.

 

 

is it still too late to vote?

[Brownie19]

re: potential Machado trade....."The Cubs purportedly offered a package of Addison Russell, Albert Almora and Mike Montgomery but were rebuffed."

 

That seems like a pretty good offer for an expiring contract.

[L54]

The guy is a No. 1 or 2 starter if healthy, let alone a high leverage reliever.

 

Wat? Jimbo you've had one too many this Christmas season.

[Jimcanuck]

Wat? Jimbo you've had one too many this Christmas season.

 

Nah. A stretched out Morrow is a no. 1 or 2 starter on many teams. He'd be back on the DL by mid season or earlier though.

[Abomination]

re: potential Machado trade....."The Cubs purportedly offered a package of Addison Russell, Albert Almora and Mike Montgomery but were rebuffed."

 

That seems like a pretty good offer for an expiring contract.

 

It wouldn't matter. As soon as they made the trade, their doctors would find some phantom injury somewhere and cancel it anyway.

[Jimcanuck]

re: potential Machado trade....."The Cubs purportedly offered a package of Addison Russell, Albert Almora and Mike Montgomery but were rebuffed."

 

That seems like a pretty good offer for an expiring contract.

 

Very surprising that Epstein would give up all that. If he is, Jays need to be shopping JD to the cubbies asap.

[Orgfiller]

Very surprising that Epstein would give up all that. If he is, Jays need to be shopping JD to the cubbies asap.

 

Yeah because they're really scuffling for a 3B right now.

[Jimcanuck]

Yeah because they're really scuffling for a 3B right now.

 

Ah, Machado at SS, duh.....

[saskjayfan]

Ah, Machado at SS, duh.....

 

didn't realize JD could play SS.

[Jimcanuck]

didn't realize JD could play SS.

 

probably could, and not too badly

[L54]

Nah. A stretched out Morrow is a no. 1 or 2 starter on many teams. He'd be back on the DL by mid season or earlier though.

 

Part of being a front end starter is durability and the ability to go deep into games. Brandon Morrow is not a top of the rotation arm.

[Jimcanuck]

Part of being a front end starter is durability and the ability to go deep into games. Brandon Morrow is not a top of the rotation arm.

 

Thats what i said.... if he could stay healthy

[TBJ12]

Thats what i said.... if he could stay healthy

 

He's never been healthy or durable and he's almost 34.

[Abomination]

Morrow at his best probably performed at about a #3 starter level, ignoring durability. It's nice to see him now transfer that ability to the closer's role, but let's not try to suggest he's a top of the rotation guy even if healthy.

[Jimcanuck]

Morrow at his best probably performed at about a #3 starter level, ignoring durability. It's nice to see him now transfer that ability to the closer's role, but let's not try to suggest he's a top of the rotation guy even if healthy.

 

He was Jays top of rotation guy for a few years.

[Abomination]

He was Jays top of rotation guy for a few years.

 

That doesn't mean anything, other than we needed more pitching really badly.

 

The Marlins top starter next year is probably Straily. That doesn't mean you'd consider him a #1 starter.

[Brownie19]

He was Jays top of rotation guy for a few years.

 

To be fair to Jim, in 2010, Morrow was on pace for 5 WAR/200 innings, 3.6 WAR/200 in 2011 and 3.9 WAR/200 innings in 2012. That's basically the same as Stroman in 2014, 2016, 2017. I think those are #1/#2 numbers.

 

That said - I think it's a stretch to think Morrow would still be a top of the rotation guy in 2018.

[Brownie19]

Very surprising that Epstein would give up all that. If he is, Jays need to be shopping JD to the cubbies asap.

 

I'd take Happ + Almora for JD. Cubbies could play Bryant in the OF and JD at 3rd. Then deal Pillar to the Giants when they fail to land Billy Hamilton.

[Pendleton]

One interesting wild card in the Nationals’ attempts to keep Bryce Harper beyond 2018 could be his older brother Bryan Harper, MASNSports.com’s Byron Kerr writes. The elder Harper, who just turned 28, is a left-handed reliever who posted strong numbers in 2015-16 for Washington’s Double-A and Triple-A affiliates, with good splits against left-handed batters. The southpaw is preparing to return to the mound after undergoing Tommy John surgery in October 2016, and there’s at least a chance he could join his younger brother on the Nats roster this season.

[Dick_Pole]

People inflating their thanks count scoring easy points off of Jim's stupidity ITT right now. JD for Morrow, Atkins make it happen now pls.