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[Bobthe4th]

Stanton's contract is horrendous. I don't know how he was able to get that. 13/325, opt out after six years, full no trade clause, $10m buyout at the end of his deal (team option). I mean, getting 13 years on a contract alone is enough, but he got all those other things on top of that. Crazy. Now the Marlins will be screwed because the only teams he will accept a trade to likely don't want him. It's their own fault for giving him a Ntc.

 

I wonder if the Cardinals missing out on Stanton makes them more desperate to overpay for Donaldson in a trade. They seem really eager to make a deal.

 

Baltimore have been getting calls on Machado, while publicly saying they don't want to trade him. Perhaps those teams that are rebuffed then give the Jays a call.

[Dr. Dinger]

The Mariners also acquired $1M in pool money along with Dee Gordon. I'm starting to get the vibe that they are the front-runner for Ohtani, which honestly, I wouldn't mind at all.

[L54]

Ya you pretty much have to think that they believe they're top 2 to go ahead and acquire more money.

[G-Snarls]

Stanton now coming up with a list of teams too?

 

Interesting

 

And his refusal to go to San Francisco may have saved them from making a mistake

[Brownie19]

Ohtani

Paxton

Felix

Leake

Iwakuma

 

Decent rotation. Do we think King Felix is done or what?

[G-Snarls]

I can't say I blame Stanton. This is what can happen when you hand out a NTC.

 

Exactly

 

"I'll only go to good teams with good front offices in big markets in good cities"

[Boxcar]

Ohtani

Paxton

Felix

Leake

Iwakuma

 

Decent rotation. Do we think King Felix is done or what?

 

Yeah. Otani is honestly a total dummy if he wants to go to Seattle. Maybe he really likes rain.

 

Oh well, have fun playing for a .500 team!

[glory]

If Ohtani is DH, then the M's might run an outfield with Gordon and Cruz in it. A second baseman and an old DH.

 

That will be fun to watch.

[KingKat]

Yeah the Marlins should never have given Stanton a full no trade clause, the contract was already extremely player friendly. IMO full no trade clauses should only be optionally put in to get someone to sign at a hometown discount when the player is happy at that team.

 

The Marlins pretty much have to give no trade clauses after the big Jays trade where they dumped Reyes and Buehrle just one year into their deals. Players and agents don't really trust the Marlins to commit to players and probably insist on it now. Stanton and his agent had to know based on track record that there was a high probability the Marlins would try to move him before his 5/10 rights kicked in. This gave him some protection against that. Control over his own fate was probably just as important as the money for the Stanton camp. I doubt the Marlins had a whole lot of wiggle room short of pulling the offer altogether.

[BTS]

Yeah. Otani is honestly a total dummy if he wants to go to Seattle. Maybe he really likes rain.

 

Oh well, have fun playing for a .500 team!

 

Yeah, if he chooses Seattle he had his mind made up before this process began and is signing there because of it's proximity to Japan. What do they have going for them?

 

- Their team is not good in the present, and seems to be mismanaged.

- Their future outlook is bleak

- They haven't done a good job keeping pitchers healthy

[Dr. Dinger]

Yeah, if he chooses Seattle he had his mind made up before this process began and is signing there because of it's proximity to Japan. What do they have going for them?

 

- Their team is not good in the present, and seems to be mismanaged.

- Their future outlook is bleak

- They haven't done a good job keeping pitchers healthy

 

- they had Ichiro

[KingKat]

proximity to Japan

 

This would be so weird. In practical terms, the difference in proximity between L.A. and Seattle is about a 10% or so saving on flight time. Big whoop. If he wasn't dead set on DHing, the Dodgers would have been such a great fit. Killer team, killer front office, pitcher-friendly park, fairly prestigious and marketable franchise, good media market, solid track record with Asian players. Even the Angels with all of their woes would be better than Seattle. At least you get to form a core with Trout.

[BTS]

This would be so weird. In practical terms, the difference in proximity between L.A. and Seattle is about a 10% or so saving on flight time. Big whoop. If he wasn't dead set on DHing, the Dodgers would have been such a great fit. Killer team, killer front office, pitcher-friendly park, fairly prestigious and marketable franchise, good media market, solid track record with Asian players. Even the Angels with all of their woes would be better than Seattle. At least you get to form a core with Trout.

 

I'll be pretty disappointed if he signs there. They're such a boring, unimpressive team. I'm rooting for Chicago or one of the LA teams.

[Brownie19]

The Marlins pretty much have to give no trade clauses after the big Jays trade where they dumped Reyes and Buehrle just one year into their deals. Players and agents don't really trust the Marlins to commit to players and probably insist on it now. Stanton and his agent had to know based on track record that there was a high probability the Marlins would try to move him before his 5/10 rights kicked in. This gave him some protection against that. Control over his own fate was probably just as important as the money for the Stanton camp. I doubt the Marlins had a whole lot of wiggle room short of pulling the offer altogether.

 

They should have just traded him before he signed the massive deal. That deal killed his value.

[Pendleton]

Maybe he's a big fan of the grunge scene?

[KingKat]

They should have just traded him before he signed the massive deal. That deal killed his value.

 

The Marlins are weird. They have this track record of doing the bait and switch on their fans. Is it any wonder they don't have very many?

[xposbrad]

Yeah. Otani is honestly a total dummy if he wants to go to Seattle. Maybe he really likes rain.

 

Oh well, have fun playing for a .500 team!

 

I mean, I don't think Seattle is that great either, but we are kind of living in a glass house ourselves here so we shouldn't really comment on the future of other teams. It's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot in the near future lol...If anything, we should be happy the talent is spread to another team like SEA. Do we really want the Cubs/Dodgers to get that much stronger? Seattle is a very 'progressive' city, maybe he wants to drive a hybrid/recycle and listen to garage bands.

[KingKat]

I mean, I don't think Seattle is that great either, but we are kind of living in a glass house ourselves here so we shouldn't really comment on the future of other teams. It's not like we're going to be competing for a playoff spot in the near future lol...If anything, we should be happy the talent is spread to another team like SEA. Do we really want the Cubs/Dodgers to get that much stronger? Seattle is a very 'progressive' city, maybe he wants to drive a hybrid/recycle and listen to garage bands.

 

I think only BTS is the only one hung up on the idea of Ohtani going to a good team. I think most of the people who would criticize the decision would still be happy that he made the decision to go to a lousy org.

[BTS]

So the Padres seem to have real interest in Hosmer. I guess you can never have too many mediocre 1B making $20M a year.

[Brownie19]

So the Padres seem to have real interest in Hosmer. I guess you can never have too many mediocre 1B making $20M a year.

 

Yeah I read Wil Myers confirmed he'd be willing to move to the OF if the landed Hosmer. I mean if Myers is competent in the OF, I have no idea why they would zap his value by putting him at 1st. I guess that's why they are the Padres.

[jays4life19]

Yeah I read Wil Myers confirmed he'd be willing to move to the OF if the landed Hosmer. I mean if Myers is competent in the OF, I have no idea why they would zap his value by putting him at 1st. I guess that's why they are the Padres.

 

He's not competent anywhere. It's amazing in 2017 how a FO's can be so dumb. No logical reason why the Padres should want Hosmer at the price he's going to get paid.

[Ray]

No reason any logical front office would want Eric Hosmer when Carlos Santana is better and will be less than 1/2 the cost.

[Orgfiller]

Yeah I read Wil Myers confirmed he'd be willing to move to the OF if the landed Hosmer. I mean if Myers is competent in the OF, I have no idea why they would zap his value by putting him at 1st. I guess that's why they are the Padres.

 

Wil Myers is a terrible outfielder. The Padres once had him and Matt Kemp playing alongside each other, it was hilarious.

[P2F]

I wonder if Stanton and the Angels could be a thing now.

[G-Snarls]

I wonder if Stanton and the Angels could be a thing now.

 

Maybe they'd want him yes but they're not on his short list

 

Unless this somehow changes his mind but...

[Orgfiller]

I wonder if Stanton and the Angels could be a thing now.

 

They'd need to trade one of Upton or Calhoun to fit him though. Also if San Fran's package is any indication the Angels don't have the assets to match, unless they decide to take on the bulk of the contract which would seem fitting with the organization's moto.

[jays4life19]

I wonder if Stanton and the Angels could be a thing now.

 

Stanton, Trout and Upton would just be silly.

[jays_fever]

Stanton, Trout and Upton would just be silly.

 

JD, Bautista and Eddy were so fun to watch, but those 3 would be just as freaky to watch every night

[burlingtonbandit]

Stanton, Trout and Upton would just be silly.

 

So would their terrible contracts in 3 years.

[Brownie19]

Yunior Severino signing with the Twins.