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[Abomination]

So Romine is playing all positions tonight. So far he's missing only 1st, C, and P.

[Abomination]

Romine just got out the batter he faced in a 3-2 game. He's gonna pick up a hold! Now in at C, and just missing 1B.

[G-Snarls]

Welp, as a reward for clinching the AL East today, the Red Sox get to play the Astros in the ALDS.

 

Sweet

 

f*** 'em

 

[Abomination]

MLB.TV is apparently free this final weekend (er ... tomorrow).

[BTS]

Romine just got out the batter he faced in a 3-2 game. He's gonna pick up a hold! Now in at C, and just missing 1B.

 

This is pretty cool. I love when teams do this kind of thing.

[intentional wok]

Not entirely true. If the Yanks win out and the Sox lose out the remaining three games, they'd have to do a one-gamer to decide the division! Not likely, but would be hilarious. Shame the Yanks would have to do it against the Jays though since I still want to see the O's faceplant themselves into the cellar by the end of Sunday.

 

[Spanky__99]

lol... this guy's a beast!

 

https://www.mlb.com/video/statcast-stanton-hits-1222-mph/c-1859332283

[burlingtonbandit]

John Coppolella resigns as GM of the Braves. Did shady business internationally according to Ken R timeline.

[Dr. Dinger]

John Coppolella resigns as GM of the Braves. Did shady business internationally according to Ken R timeline.

 

Interesting, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Maitan signing. It was well-known that he was locked in with the Braves long before he was eligible to sign.

[burlingtonbandit]

Interesting, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Maitan signing. It was well-known that he was locked in with the Braves long before he was eligible to sign.

 

I would have to think it's about under the table money or along the lines. Its well known almost all of the international signings commit well before July 2. Teams have basically already signed the guys for next year.

[metafour]

Interesting, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Maitan signing. It was well-known that he was locked in with the Braves long before he was eligible to sign.

 

You mean just like every other top international prospect?

[BTS]

Phils will apparently be shopping Cesar Hernandez. He’d be a good fit here with Travis’s health issues. Still 3 years of team control.

[Dr. Dinger]

Phils will apparently be shopping Cesar Hernandez. He’d be a good fit here with Travis’s health issues. Still 3 years of team control.

 

He'd be a pretty good option as a leadoff hitter, back to back .370 OBP seasons. Still though, I wouldn't be inclined to give up a top prospect for him. I could easily see him slipping to like a 90 wRC+, and with a bit of variance in defence, he could be more like a 1-2 WAR player than the 3-4 WAR player he's been the last two seasons. I'd put Alford and Pearson in the off-limits pile, with Bo and Vlad obviously well outside the realm of possibility.

[Ray]

[Abomination]

 

If he was declared a free agent, would he still be subject to the bonus pools again, or be an actual free agent?

[John_Havok]

If he was declared a free agent, would he still be subject to the bonus pools again, or be an actual free agent?

 

He's young, so probably still subject to pools.

[Abomination]

He's young, so probably still subject to pools.

 

Still a pretty good deal for him. He'll either get a big payday, or he'll get a second signing bonus.

[King]

Can he re-sign with the Braves?

[John_Havok]

Can he re-sign with the Braves?

 

Lol that would be hilarious

[King]

Lol that would be hilarious

Not like it's out of the question. Possible he doesn't want to change organizations after spending the past 2 years with them.

[Krylian]

I'd be all up in Maitan.

[Orgfiller]

I'd be all up in Maitan.

 

He's only 17...mods!

[Dr. Dinger]

Too bad he apparently sucks anyway.

[Spanky__99]

John Coppolella resigns as GM of the Braves. Did shady business internationally according to Ken R timeline.

 

Interesting, I wonder if this has anything to do with the Maitan signing. It was well-known that he was locked in with the Braves long before he was eligible to sign.

 

I would have to think it's about under the table money or along the lines. Its well known almost all of the international signings commit well before July 2. Teams have basically already signed the guys for next year.

 

You mean just like every other top international prospect?

 

 

Welp...

[burlingtonbandit]

Still a pretty good deal for him. He'll either get a big payday, or he'll get a second signing bonus.

 

Yeah some great deal for him.. he still only gets like 25% of his true value on the open market.

[King]

Verbal agreement with a 14 year old IFA is one of the huge accusations against the Braves. Literally every team does this. If you don't you're behind the curve.

[Dr. Dinger]

Verbal agreement with a 14 year old IFA is one of the huge accusations against the Braves. Literally every team does this. If you don't you're behind the curve.

 

Yes but how did you get the agreement? That's the issue. Did you build a relationship with the player and convince them you are the right org for them? Or did you bribe some buscone and make an arrangement where the player had no say? I've often wondered how these known agreements come to be. For those of you who haven't seen it, I highly recommend the documentary Pelotero, which follows the signing period of Miguel Sano and other prospects who did not pan out. It's interesting the ways in which the MLB teams conspired to screw over Sano and drop his price tag, first by spreading rumours about his age and then by strong-arm tactics (specifically the Pirates). There is all kinds of shady crap going on in Latin American baseball, it's really the Wild West.

[art_vandelay275]

Yes but how did you get the agreement? That's the issue. Did you build a relationship with the player and convince them you are the right org for them? Or did you bribe some buscone and make an arrangement where the player had no say? I've often wondered how these known agreements come to be. For those of you who haven't seen it, I highly recommend the documentary Pelotero, which follows the signing period of Miguel Sano and other prospects who did not pan out. It's interesting the ways in which the MLB teams conspired to screw over Sano and drop his price tag, first by spreading rumours about his age and then by strong-arm tactics (specifically the Pirates). There is all kinds of shady crap going on in Latin American baseball, it's really the Wild West.

 

Just viewed the trailer. 2 interesting tidbits:

 

- By 2009, Huntington was already the GM of the Pirates. Wonder how much he's involved and if so, how much of it was learned from Shatkins

 

- Bobby V is the executive producer so now I don't know if there's an angle to this

[Jimcanuck]

Vladdy was linked to the Jays long before he signed

[Abomination]

Vladdy was linked to the Jays long before he signed

 

Most guys are linked to someone, and have agreements in place. I'm not sure to what degree that's allowed, but that doesn't seem to be considered a problem. Paying their agents, or paying them under the table, etc IS. Given that the GM resigned near the conclusion of the investigation, I think it's pretty likely they did something blatantly illegal.