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Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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Ruh roh, Archer leaves the game after throwing a pitch.

 

Noooooooo...

 

Sat, Sep 2

 

Chris Archer left Saturday's game in the first inning after throwing a pitch to his third batter of the night.

 

Advice: Yikes. Archer gave up back-to-back homers to start the game and then threw a ball to Avisail Garcia. There was nothing terribly obvious wrong after the last pitch, but obviously something wasn't right. Austin Pruitt took over for him on the mound.

(Rotoworld.com)

havok24 Dunedin Blue Jays

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J.D. Martinez with the elusive 4-homer game.

 

Two tremendous performances from two players on the same team. That D-Backs team is fun to watch.

P2F Toronto Blue Jays

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Two tremendous performances from two players on the same team. That D-Backs team is fun to watch.

 

11 wins in a row and counting.

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This is an intresting article on the current trend of shifts but it makes me wonder.. As analytics lead to more and more pronounced shifts, at what point do they go to far? Example here being a left fielder is playing right field. Now when I fill out a lineup card theres only one left fielder, if hes in right field isnt he my right fielder? Moreso, if I play my whole outfield in the infield, do they qualify as infielders? I mean I understand defensive alignments but isnt this bastardizing the point of specific positions?

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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His blocking is shite but apparently his framing is sublime. And dat arm!

 

It would seem if he could improve his blocking, he could challenge Posey for the best catcher in baseball.

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This is an intresting article on the current trend of shifts but it makes me wonder.. As analytics lead to more and more pronounced shifts, at what point do they go to far? Example here being a left fielder is playing right field. Now when I fill out a lineup card theres only one left fielder, if hes in right field isnt he my right fielder? Moreso, if I play my whole outfield in the infield, do they qualify as infielders? I mean I understand defensive alignments but isnt this bastardizing the point of specific positions?

 

Why do specific positions matter? (outside of fantasy baseball)

 

The premise of the game is to get the batter out. Moving players into positions that optimizes your ability to do that is common sense frankly.

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This is an intresting article on the current trend of shifts but it makes me wonder.. As analytics lead to more and more pronounced shifts, at what point do they go to far? Example here being a left fielder is playing right field. Now when I fill out a lineup card theres only one left fielder, if hes in right field isnt he my right fielder? Moreso, if I play my whole outfield in the infield, do they qualify as infielders? I mean I understand defensive alignments but isnt this bastardizing the point of specific positions?

 

No. You put your fielders wherever you need to to help get the batter out. If there were designated lines you couldn't cross defensively then that's one thing, but aside from the pitcher and catcher, you can line your D up however you want to...and you absolutely should take advantage of that.

Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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That kid can throw it though.

 

His blocking is shite but apparently his framing is sublime. And dat arm!

 

Yes, I know. I was merely joking as they continued on about a passed ball during the game, and how Girardi was going to be upset. The kid has a hose for an arm and a SS bat year in and out. Blocking can be improved on.

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But then why is it that a 3rd baseman sent into shallow right field for the Ortiz shift is still considered a 3rd baseman for the purposes of scoring?

 

By that logic, couldn't a manager identify any fielder as almost any position he wanted, regardless of where he's standing?

Orgfiller All-Star

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I think it has something to do with the rules in place for gloves at certain positions. For example when the Cubs have used a unique defensive alignment to field bunts, they've had to give Rizzo a second baseman's glove due to his positioning. All outfield gloves are the same but that's not the case for infielders. That's my take on it anyway.
Spanky__99 FCL Blue Jays

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I think it has something to do with the rules in place for gloves at certain positions. For example when the Cubs have used a unique defensive alignment to field bunts, they've had to give Rizzo a second baseman's glove due to his positioning. All outfield gloves are the same but that's not the case for infielders. That's my take on it anyway.

 

You're correct. There's specific limitations to the glove, pretty simple, really.

Brownie19 New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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But then why is it that a 3rd baseman sent into shallow right field for the Ortiz shift is still considered a 3rd baseman for the purposes of scoring?

 

By that logic, couldn't a manager identify any fielder as almost any position he wanted, regardless of where he's standing?

 

Does it really matter how it gets scored in the book. 5-3, 4-3, 4.5-3. Who gives a s***?

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It makes their defensive metrics amazing. The third baseman made a play in shallow right. What range!!!

 

It doesn't, actually. This has long been corrected.

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It was a joke. I actually didn't even know that this was ever an issue.

 

Brett Lawrie in 2011 was a noticeable example. He was shifted around to RF and basically broke UZR for a couple months.

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