Around Baseball 2017

[HERPDERP]

AL East team

[Spanky__99]

AL East team

 

Likely, nada's going to happen.

[Spanky__99]

Yes, and yet they're running out Luis Cessa tonight instead of calling up Chance Adams... are they trying to let other teams back in the playoff race? Because it sure feels like it.. and Tanaka/Sabathia aren't expected back until late August at a minimum..

 

When/where'd you hear/read that?

[Spanky__99]

Hahaha... Chris Hermaan's walk up song is "Take On Me" by A-Ha... lulz

[G-Snarls]

Stanton on pace for 60 meaningless home runs

[THANOS]

Stanton on pace for 60 meaningless home runs

 

He's unreal..

[Orgfiller]

Joey Votto is reaching ridiculous levels of good. He's walking at a rate better than career average, has SIGNIFICANTLY reduced his strikeout rate, and is hitting for more power than he EVER has before.

[Pendleton]

Ian Kinsler isn't pulling any punches when asked about his run in with Angel Hernandez.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2017/08/15/detroit-tigers-ian-kinsler-umpire-angel-hernandez/571202001/

 

“I’m just saying it’s pretty obvious that he needs to stop ruining baseball games.” And, “Candidly, leave the game. No one wants you behind the plate anymore. No one in this game wants you behind the plate any more, none of the players.”

[John_Havok]

Ian Kinsler on umpire Angel Hernandez:

 

Speaking to reporters, Kinsler said that Hernandez, who has been a major league umpire since 1993, "needs to re-evaluate his career choice" because he's "messing with baseball games."

 

"I'm surprised at how bad an umpire he is," Kinsler said, according to the Detroit News. "I don't know how, for as many years he's been in the league, that he can be that bad. He needs to re-evaluate his career choice, he really does. Bottom line.

 

"If I get fined for saying the truth, then so be it. He's messing with baseball games, blatantly."

 

Kinsler was tossed while batting in the fifth inning of Monday's 6-2 loss to the Texas Rangers. According to the Detroit News, Kinsler questioned a strike that was called on the first pitch of his at-bat, telling Hernandez it was a strike only because he called it a strike. After the second pitch was called a ball, Kinsler turned to Hernandez and said, "What about that one?"

 

Hernandez ejected Kinsler. Tigers manager Brad Ausmus, who ran onto the field in Kinsler's defense, was also tossed.

 

"This has to do with changing the game," said Kinsler, who claims he has had problems with Hernandez since his rookie season in 2006. "He's changing the game. He needs to find another job. He really does."

 

Asked if he and Hernandez had a personal issue, Kinsler said, "I'm not mad at him. He just needs to go away."

 

Kinsler told reporters that he believes Hernandez missed eight obvious calls against both teams in Monday's game.

 

"Not just borderline calls here and there," Kinsler said. "There's arguments on those every game. There are pitches every game where if you call it a strike, the hitter's going to be mad; and if you call that same pitch a ball, the pitcher's going to be mad. Umpires have to deal with that every game.

 

"But when it becomes blatant like this, there is a problem. ... What is he doing on the field? What is he doing out there? It's pretty obvious he needs to stop ruining baseball games."

[John_Havok]

Can't see the Marlins trading Stanton now that Loria sold the team. Stanton would of been a lock to be traded this off season had the sale not gone through.

 

I say trade him to Colorado so we can see a 600 foot HR one day

[Slade]

Instant Kinsler fan. He is 100% right though, umpires have been allowed to be game changeably awful for way too long now.

 

Reporter: "Were you surprised at how fast you were ejected?"

 

Kinsler: "No, I'm surprised at how bad of an umpire he is."

[baseballsss]

I'm actually surprised it took someone this long to call Hernadez out. Kinsler is exactly on point with what he said.

 

This isn't even about other umpires and changing the game this should only be about Hernandez cause he really is that bad.

[fatcowxlive]

https://sports.yahoo.com/free-giancarlo-stanton-marlins-need-trade-baseballs-home-run-king-133231299.html

 

Shocking if its true.

 

Blue Jays might be in a good position here based on their current position in the standings. They need a RF and Stanton would be a huge add to this lineup moving forward. Looks like the Marlins want to rid themselves of salary.

 

You know the Yankees are going to add one or both Harper or Machado after 2018, and the Red Sox have a solid young nucleus of superstar talent. Stanton is type of player the Jays need to remain relevant in the AL East for the next 4-5 years.

 

Are you serious? They want to rid his contract? $30M AAV for him will look like a bargain with the way the contracts are increasing (and eventual inflation) as early as 2019

 

I wonder if Jeter's ownership group that's close to acquiring the club will have a say or if that will change anything

[jaysguy44]

Just became a fan of Kinsler.

 

f*** I'd absolutely love to KO Angel, something about that guy.

[TholesWeirdEye]

I f***ing hate Angel Hernandez. He's a prick with a huge ego that interferes with the game.

[Brownie19]

Carter Capps hasn't struck out anyone in 4 appearances since being recalled. From Elite to zero in a hurry. Has anyone seen him throw without the 'hop'?

[Brownie19]

Tim Beckham Jr. has put up 1.6 WAR in 15 games for Baltimore. Now up to 2.8 WAR on the season. Wow.

[BTS]

Wow, Andrelton Simmons has a 120 wRC+ and 4.5 fWAR. He's provided LA with 7.6 wins in less than two years, and is under control for three more years. Trading him for Sean Newcomb was never not insane.

[Dr. Dinger]

Wow, Andrelton Simmons has a 120 wRC+ and 4.5 fWAR. He's provided LA with 7.6 wins in less than two years, and is under control for three more years. Trading him for Sean Newcomb was never not insane.

 

Those top pitching prospects with s***** control are always a bad bet. Very few turn out like Aaron Sanchez.

[BTS]

Those top pitching prospects with s***** control are always a bad bet. Very few turn out like Aaron Sanchez.

 

You definitely don't trade 5 years of a mid-prime positional player stud for one.

[BTS]

Jered Weaver has retired.

[Brownie19]

You definitely don't trade 5 years of a mid-prime positional player stud for one.

 

To be fair - he was Kevin Pillar with the bat until this year. I'd have to assume the Braves expected his REMARKABLE defense would start to decline as he aged and they had no faith in his bat.

 

Would you trade Kevin Pillar right now for say - Tyler Glasnow?

[The Cats Ass]

To be fair - he was Kevin Pillar with the bat until this year. I'd have to assume the Braves expected his REMARKABLE defense would start to decline as he aged and they had no faith in his bat.

 

Would you trade Kevin Pillar right now for say - Tyler Glasnow?

 

Big difference between SS and CF.

[TholesWeirdEye]

Jered Weaver has retired.

 

He should have retired after the 2015 season.

[THANOS]

Wow, Andrelton Simmons has a 120 wRC+ and 4.5 fWAR. He's provided LA with 7.6 wins in less than two years, and is under control for three more years. Trading him for Sean Newcomb was never not insane.

 

I think the knock was they believed his hitting projected to take a steep decline very soon.

 

With hindsight, they were very wrong lol. Also, his defensive value alone should have been enough to outweigh any future offensive shortcomings.

[Brownie19]

Big difference between SS and CF.

 

There's certainly a difference. I don't know if I'd consider it massive though.

[KingKat]

There's certainly a difference. I don't know if I'd consider it massive though.

 

I feel like the decline in defensive value hits outfielders a lot harder than it does SSs. An above average defensive shortstop (like Tulo for instance) is capable of maintaining defensive value late in his career. Centerfielders seem to fall off a cliff. Is probably has a lot (everything?) to do with the distribution of chances. Merely above average play at shorstop holds more value than merely above average outfield play. To be a valuable outfielder, you have to make your mark on less plays. In other words, you have to be exceptional. That's harder to do consistently from year to year and it's harder to maintain long term.

[BTS]

To be fair - he was Kevin Pillar with the bat until this year. I'd have to assume the Braves expected his REMARKABLE defense would start to decline as he aged and they had no faith in his bat.

 

Would you trade Kevin Pillar right now for say - Tyler Glasnow?

 

Pillar right now? Yes. But Simmons was entering his age-26 season and controllable for 5 more years, and was coming off a 3-win age-25 season. An asset like Newcomb, with long odds to ever be a 3-win player, was nowhere close to an adequate return.

[The Cats Ass]

There's certainly a difference. I don't know if I'd consider it massive though.

 

There's also a big difference between a big difference and massive difference

[The Cats Ass]

I feel like the decline in defensive value hits outfielders a lot harder than it does SSs. An above average defensive shortstop (like Tulo for instance) is capable of maintaining defensive value late in his career. Centerfielders seem to fall off a cliff. Is probably has a lot (everything?) to do with the distribution of chances. Merely above average play at shorstop holds more value than merely above average outfield play. To be a valuable outfielder, you have to make your mark on less plays. In other words, you have to be exceptional. That's harder to do consistently from year to year and it's harder to maintain long term.

 

CF also relies a lot more heavily on the speed. They have a lot more ground to cover. Where as at SS it's more about the glove and first step instead of speed and routes.