New MLB collective bargaining agreement thread

[TheHurl]

According to Jeff Passan the wording is now 25 and 5+ years pro experience. I am in transit can someone research. My DDL future depends on It.

 

JJ Cooper confirmed it. Otani will apply to the new rules 6m max until he turns 25. Stupid stupid stupid stupid.

[Spanky99]

According to Jeff Passan the wording is now 25 and 5+ years pro experience. I am in transit can someone research. My DDL future depends on It.

 

Kenny Ken says 23 and 5+... Passan's an idiot.

[Spanky99]

JJ Cooper confirmed it. Otani will apply to the new rules 6m max until he turns 25. Stupid stupid stupid stupid.

 

Where did you see this?

[z3r0s]

If the goal is to stop big market teams paying massive dollars to 'prospect' international FA's, why have an age limit at all. Just make a rule that all deals over $X must be a major league deal.

 

Leaves the standout young guys that could play in the majors young free to sign, but stops big market teams from blowing their load on prospects. Guys like Puig or Moncada would be covered (as they couldn't have jumped right to the majors and be effective), but leaves guys like Otani free to sign whenever.

[Jonn]

I have to assume an exception will be put in place. This hurts the Japanese team and the player. Now he waits and the Japanese team could get nothing.

[GoldBull]

Kenny Ken says 23 and 5+... Passan's an idiot.

 

Apparently that only applies to Cubans

[TheHurl]

Where did you see this?

 

Pass an and JJ coopers Twitter. Cooper said article being posted to BA immediately

[Spanky99]

JJ Cooper confirmed it. Otani will apply to the new rules 6m max until he turns 25. Stupid stupid stupid stupid.

 

f*** me sideways... yeah, just found it. 3 f***ing years, so dumn.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Gradual rather than sudden increase in luxury tax threshold

 

That's reasonable

[jerb]

 

 

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RIP the 15-day disabled list. You have been downsized to 10 days.

 

 

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One more penalty for teams re: QO players: If you're $40M over luxury-tax threshold and sign one, your first-round pick moves back 10 spots.

[burlingtonbandit]

10 Day DL is nice as is the WS HFA going to the team with the best record. The MLBPA f***ed over International players though which sucks for the game. You're probably going to lose some talent in the next 10 years because of that.

[Governator]

Man, I'm never going to remember all these QO rules in a year.

[Terminator]

10 Day DL is nice as is the WS HFA going to the team with the best record. The MLBPA f***ed over International players though which sucks for the game. You're probably going to lose some talent in the next 10 years because of that.

 

10 Day DL is really interesting. I could see a team abusing that with their starting pitchers. If you have an off day throw your #5 starter on the 10 day DL and bring up a reliever. Just skip his start and you effectively are playing with an extra man?

[intentional wok]

10 Day DL is really interesting. I could see a team abusing that with their starting pitchers. If you have an off day throw your #5 starter on the 10 day DL and bring up a reliever. Just skip his start and you effectively are playing with an extra man?

 

This becomes even more viable if the season ultimately shortens to 145 games or whatever they were discussing. Could be bad news for the borderline rotation guys though.

[jerb]

 

 

 

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QO comp works like this. If you receive revenue sharing and lose a player who signs for $50M+, you get a pick immediately after 1st round.

 

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If you are over the luxury-tax threshold and lose a player who signs for $50M+, you get a pick after the 4th round.

 

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If you fall into neither the revenue-sharing payee nor luxury-tax payor camps and lose QO guy at $50M+, you get a pick after the 2nd round.

[Terminator]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but the A's are being phased out of revenue sharing. Not because they don't need it but because the impression was that the revenue sharing wasn't being reinvested in to payroll (which is revenue sharing's stated goal). That's got to be a damaging blow.

[Spanky99]

Not sure if this has been posted yet but the A's are being phased out of revenue sharing. Not because they don't need it but because the impression was that the revenue sharing wasn't being reinvested in to payroll (which is revenue sharing's stated goal). That's got to be a damaging blow.

 

Good for them, to step in. That's horseshit.

[G-Snarls]

Headache from trying to digest new QO and comp pick rules

 

Holy f***

[burlingtonbandit]

10 Day DL is really interesting. I could see a team abusing that with their starting pitchers. If you have an off day throw your #5 starter on the 10 day DL and bring up a reliever. Just skip his start and you effectively are playing with an extra man?

 

You would need the player's consent to go on the DL and I don't think pitchers would want to do that as DL time looks bad on a player's profile. MLB could just say they'll punish teams who do that in an unethical way.

[Governator]

Headache from trying to digest new QO and comp pick rules

 

Holy f***

 

 

Front office's will need to hire a team to do a presentation on the 40 different what if scenarios at the end of the season.

[Governator]

You would need the player's consent to go on the DL and I don't think pitchers would want to do that as DL time looks bad on a player's profile. MLB could just say they'll punish teams who do that in an unethical way.

 

 

Team's already do this with young starting pitchers that in their rotation by using their minor league options and sending them down for 10 days (I believe we've done this with Sanchez once or twice). It's not going to hurt their profile if they still turn in their expected results and # of innings at the end of the year.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Wouldn't it just been easier to say or do it say:

 

If a player refuses a Qo gets signed by a top 8 payroll team (for example only) you lose 1 mill in draft money, 500,000 international draft, top 16 lose 750,000 and 400,000, top 24 lose 500,000 and 300,000 and bottom eight 250,000 and 200,000 Money gets added to the losing teams pot! Maybe add this also No picks protected, if teams number one is not availible you can take thier next two or get there first availible number one.

[Terminator]

You would need the player's consent to go on the DL and I don't think pitchers would want to do that as DL time looks bad on a player's profile. MLB could just say they'll punish teams who do that in an unethical way.

 

Players will consent to look good to their current bosses and to be "team players".

 

I have a good source who told me that Saunders saved the team a lot of grief over one of his injuries, for example.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Headache from trying to digest new QO and comp pick rules

 

Holy f***

 

Gonna be some fun and not sure it is better, lots of moving pieces in that puzzle!

[G-Snarls]

Gonna be some fun and not sure it is better, lots of moving pieces in that puzzle!

 

It's probably better than the "one size fits all teams/free agents" that's in place now

[flafson]

So now there is no incentive to QO a player, why risk paying someone 17M vs getting in a return a 2nd round draft?

[Spanky99]

So now there is no incentive to QO a player, why risk paying someone 17M vs getting in a return a 2nd round draft?

 

Well if he's on your team, and you QO them, of course there's incentive. It'll likely be better to trade said player at the deadline to get your compensation though.

[G-Snarls]

So now there is no incentive to QO a player, why risk paying someone 17M vs getting in a return a 2nd round draft?

 

At the same time, the signing team loses less of a prime draft pick though, making it easier for these guys to get the deals they want

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

It's probably better than the "one size fits all teams/free agents" that's in place now

 

Thats why I suggested my idea!