Jays interested in Steve Pearce

[Laika]

I thought the plan was to get younger and more athletic

 

Lourdes Gurriel Jr. baby

[Angrioter]

Lourdes Gurriel Jr. baby

 

Rowdy and Ureña are near to the bigs. Couple average player?

[G-Snarls]

Lourdes Gurriel Jr. baby

 

Gurriel + 3 first round draft picks and not trading away any prospects this off season, yes. That could mean younger and more athletic by 2018/2019.

 

In the meantime try to maintain a playoff hopeful team with shorter year free agent deals. I can buy that.

 

I believe in this front office

[Laika]

Gurriel + 3 first round draft picks and not trading away any prospects this off season, yes. That could mean younger and more athletic by 2018/2019.

 

In the meantime try to maintain a playoff hopeful team with shorter year free agent deals. I can buy that.

 

I believe in this front office

 

Gurriel could be in the majors this year. More likely next but still possible.

[RealAccountant]

Has Bautista officialy declined the qualifying offer?

[RealAccountant]

If Bautista comes back on a qualifier, and you get pearce, fix the bullpen

 

You can take another playoff run, and still build for the future.

[Laika]

Rowdy and Ureña are near to the bigs. Couple average player?

 

Alford, Pompey, Tellez, Urena, Gurriel could all become major league fixtures in the next two years.

 

Also McGuire, Ramirez

[G-Snarls]

Has Bautista officialy declined the qualifying offer?

 

No

 

He has until the 14th to decide

 

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/208278892/tracking-mlb-qualifying-offers-before-deadline/

[burlingtonbandit]

I think Bautista will be one of the biggest under value signings this year, like Ben Zobrist was last year.

[fatcowxlive]

I think Bautista will be one of the biggest under value signings this year, like Ben Zobrist was last year.

 

If he's going to reject the QO that means he's gunning for 20+MM on a multi year deal, not sure how much undervalue you are seeing

[Brownie19]

Gurriel + 3 first round draft picks and not trading away any prospects this off season, yes. That could mean younger and more athletic by 2018/2019.

 

In the meantime try to maintain a playoff hopeful team with shorter year free agent deals. I can buy that.

 

I believe in this front office

 

+ the 2 we added in the Liriano deal

[G-Snarls]

+ the 2 we added in the Liriano deal

 

That was a steal

[jaysguy44]

Gurriel + 3 first round draft picks and not trading away any prospects this off season, yes. That could mean younger and more athletic by 2018/2019.

 

In the meantime try to maintain a playoff hopeful team with shorter year free agent deals. I can buy that.

 

I believe in this front office

 

Is it set in stone what picks we will have if EE and Bautista rejected their QO? NHL draft is my thing, not MLB. Trying to get more into it though.

[Grant77]

Is it set in stone what picks we will have if EE and Bautista rejected their QO? NHL draft is my thing, not MLB. Trying to get more into it though.

 

Not set in stone, but probably in the 30-35 range.

[Daniel Labude]

If Smoak plays next season we are in huge trouble. I'd take Pearce playing every day over Smoak playing vs RHP

[THANOS]

Surely they could eat 75%+ of his contract in a trade somewhere when a team suffers an injury?

 

Definitely. Tellez could walk onto the team from AA and probably be an upgrade over Smoak right now.

[Jonn]

Is it set in stone what picks we will have if EE and Bautista rejected their QO? NHL draft is my thing, not MLB. Trying to get more into it though.

 

Whatever team signs them we get their first round pick. Unless they were a bottom 10 team last year. Or if they sign 2 qualified free agents we may end up with a second.

[Jonn]

Did Shatkins ever give an explanation of that move? It was so random but virtually silent after like they just tried to sneak it in.

[BlueJayWay]

They're talking about a 1B platoon with Smoak, but...Pierce actually has better career numbers vs RHP than Smoak.

[BTS]

I wonder how long it would take for Shatkins to accept if someone offered to take Smoak's contract on with nothing coming back the other way.

[Boxcar]

Omfg yes plz.

 

Holy s***, just give Pearce everyday at bats instead of telling him that he's gonna be platooned with Smoak. That might be what swings him away from signing here. He can play OF, 2B, 1B adequately so hes likely to see a lot of pt regardless I suppose.

[RealAccountant]

I wonder how long it would take for Shatkins to accept if someone offered to take Smoak's contract on with nothing coming back the other way.

 

There is not a team in the majors that has an opening for a below replacement level 1st baseman, that is making more than league minimum

[jaysguy44]

Ah ok. Thanks guys

[glory]

Gibbons was playing Navarro over Smoak in certain points over the last two seasons. If Pearce signs here, he'll be playing everyday. If not initially, then pretty soon into the season.

 

Morales, Gurriel, Pearce, and Reddick would be a pretty solid off-season. Keep all the prospects + picks, too.

[glory]

There is not a team in the majors that has an opening for a below replacement level 1st baseman, that is making more than league minimum

 

Oakland A's.

 

If the question is "who is going to value this piece of crap player", the answer is almost always the Oakland A's.

[RealAccountant]

Gibbons was playing Navarro over Smoak in certain points over the last two seasons. If Pearce signs here, he'll be playing everyday. If not initially, then pretty soon into the season.

 

Morales, Gurriel, Pearce, and Reddick would be a pretty solid off-season. Keep all the prospects + picks, too.

 

It would be liveable, but ultimately we will still be a 82-84 win team unless we can find the elite bullpen pieces that all the good teams seem to have.

[Abomination]

I wonder how long it would take for Shatkins to accept if someone offered to take Smoak's contract on with nothing coming back the other way.

 

They may want to legitimately give Smoak a full time role next year. He's never been able to really put it together, but he does have some nice tools. I don't think it's impossible to see him put up 2 WAR in a full season where he's not being jerked all over the place with playing time. It may not be ideal, but if rolling Smoak out there gives us the money to put a stud in another position, so be it. Worst case, if he really bombs, bring up Tellez.

 

If we really wanted to roll the dice, we could probably talk to one of the Texas teams about some of their guys. A guy like Profar as a super utility would be rather interesting, or one of the 1st basemen in Gallo or Singleton could be worth a shot.

[G-Snarls]

They may want to legitimately give Smoak a full time role next year. He's never been able to really put it together, but he does have some nice tools. I don't think it's impossible to see him put up 2 WAR in a full season where he's not being jerked all over the place with playing time. It may not be ideal, but if rolling Smoak out there gives us the money to put a stud in another position, so be it. Worst case, if he really bombs, bring up Tellez.

 

If we really wanted to roll the dice, we could probably talk to one of the Texas teams about some of their guys. A guy like Profar as a super utility would be rather interesting, or one of the 1st basemen in Gallo or Singleton could be worth a shot.

 

Gibby barely used Smoak in the 2nd half

 

Why would he suddenly be willing to play him full time

[Abomination]

Gibby barely used Smoak in the 2nd half

 

Why would he suddenly be willing to play him full time

 

I think Gibby is pragmatic. He'll do whatever the front office wants. He's not a brilliant strategist, he's a good manager of people.

[KingKat]

Shi seems very slow to recognize that Smoak is a sunk cost. All this talk of the plans the Jays have for Smoak are coming from him.