glory Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Was his performance in 2015 and 2016 in the bigs worth messing up his future as a SP? He's been excellent as a reliever but could the Jays have still succeeded without him while having him start in the minors? Honest question.
BTS Community Moderator Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Was his performance in 2015 and 2016 in the bigs worth messing up his future as a SP? He's been excellent as a reliever but could the Jays have still succeeded without him while having him start in the minors? Honest question. Two years ago Osuna was entering his age-20 season and had never pitched in AA. He was a fringy top-100 type. Him throwing 143 MLB innings in his first two seasons with a 2.63 ERA, 3.1 fWAR, 3.4 WPA, and 4.3 RA-9 WAR while probably sitting top-5 in reliever trade value is him turning into a very big success IMO. This is a prospect who panned out beautifully, and as low as my opinion is of AA, I think this actually turned out well.
BigBounceyBlueBalls Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Buy him out and lock him up early on the cheap now??? Closer for years !!! 3-4 mill for 10- 15 years ? Yes Yes Yes
GD Old-Timey Member Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 I'm sure AA didn't do it for the sake of Osuna's development.
BTS Community Moderator Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 I'm sure AA didn't do it for the sake of Osuna's development. He certainly didn't. It was a shortsighted panic move that I thought would fail miserably.
King Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 He certainly didn't. It was a shortsighted panic move that I thought would fail miserably. Osuna worked, but Castro faultered, was banished to AAA then a throw in to the Rockies headed to Coors field. Without looking at the stats I believe he had 10 or so total innings thrown above short season ball More teams are starting to convert power armed prospect starters to a bullpen role and seeing success. Edwin Diaz, Michael Feliz, Osuna, Carl Edwards, I'm sure there are more
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 Osuna worked, but Castro faultered, was banished to AAA then a throw in to the Rockies headed to Coors field. Without looking at the stats I believe he had 10 or so total innings thrown above short season ball More teams are starting to convert power armed prospect starters to a bullpen role and seeing success. Edwin Diaz, Michael Feliz, Osuna, Carl Edwards, I'm sure there are more A good observation. It used to be teams would try them as starters until they fail, then they'd try them as a starter again and again...then if he still failed, they would convert him to the pen. That mentality is changing. Tampa wasted years of productivity from Wade Davis following this old school mentality.
SweetSmellingChacin Verified Member Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 High leverage reliever > 5th/6th starter.
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